Elon Musk - The Master thread

Dauntless said:
What is Starlink looking like it'll cost (You buy a receiver?)
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No one knows what Starlink regular user internet customer price will cost and be, I can't help but put my business thinking cap on and assume it will be around 1.5x the cost of your average metro-city broadband link.
This extra cost would be because of the exclusivity of the product.

It's also important to note that Starlink is only going to be marketed to people in remote areas where they have little to no choices in broadband. This is because the more people who connect to Starlink inside a dense footprint (like 1 square-mile) the slower the wireless speed gets because everyone in that square mile will be downloading via the exact same Starlink satellite radio band beam.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/09/spacexs-satellite-isp-now-boasts-download-speeds-of-more-than-100-mbps/
However, while download speeds of more than 100Mbps might have some people thinking about switching internet providers to Starlink whenever it becomes available (there’s still no official launch date), it’s important to remember that Starlink was never designed to be a real competitor to terrestrial ISPs, but more of a better alternative to DSL or single-point satellite-based internet for people living in rural areas.
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It's possible Elon Musk might allow some kind of "Insane Elon Musk Fan Boi Starlink metro link plan" Where you can use Starlink in a city-metro area if you are willing to pay 20x times the cost of regular city broadboand/rural Starlink users.

Dauntless said:
and does Elon look like your pictures already? (Haven't seen him in a bit.)
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It kind of looks like he is heading that way, just a tiny bit at least
He is looking a tiny bit chunky-broader and grandiose, but I guess when you become richer than Mark Zuccerberg and have actually helped enable some technology that a lot of people might like, then that is bound to happen.

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Elon Musk promised Full Self Drive by the end of the year.

Checking out some of these videos showing off the latest beta version of FSD it looks like he might come through, might need more time but it really looks like it's going to beat crap drivers either way long term.
I think it's at a state where if everyone was using it then it would no doubt massively reduce the annual road toll.
https://www.youtube.com/user/pilotjc78/videos

I watched this in 4K on my LG OLED TV, it kind of does feel like i am in the car with them, when the car is doing 80MPH I am kind of half holding my breath in fear... :lol:
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Article and more videos
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/13024523/tesla-elon-musk-full-driverless-mode-dashboard-car/
This guy demos it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iRHYIwjFKw
 
The FSD definitely looks like it's going to come through.
One thing I noticed on other YT channels was the night driving in perfect quality roads with clear lane markings, sure the Telsa FSD is going to see it all correctly, but what about at night on a crap road? This video below shows it's still very capable of working out how to drive on crap roads.

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Dauntless said:
What is Starlink looking like it'll cost (You buy a receiver?) and does Elon look like your pictures already? (Haven't seen him in a bit.)
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Starlink beta has begun in the USA $99 a month, I am not too surprised at the price, I figured the price would have to be around double what metro-city broadband would cost, it's all based around "supply and demand law"
https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-starlink-internet-beta-has-begun-heres-what-to-expect/
 
Who does the pedestrian or cyclist sue if they get hit by Elons creation?

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/20/20973971/uber-self-driving-car-crash-investigation-human-error-results
 
The terminal will cost around $400.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/11/01/starlink-internet-from-space-faster-than-95-of-usa/[/url]"]
Starlink Internet From Space: Faster Than 95% Of USA
John Koetsier Senior Contributor
Nov 1, 2020, 09:12pm EST

Could rural Montana be the next Silicon Valley? Check internet speed off your list of reasons why not.

Even though Elon Musk’s SpaceX says its expanded “Better Than Nothing” test is still a beta version of Starlink’s eventual capabilities, at least one early Starlink internet service customer says he is getting better than expected speed. Starlink says it should give you between “50 and 150 MB/s with 20-40 milliseconds of latency.” Starlink customer “FourthEchelon19” is getting 161 megabits/second download and 23 megabits/second upload speed.

In rural Montana.

That’s good enough to stream 4K YouTube videos with zero buffering. And it’s making people with hard-wired “high-speed” internet jealous.

“I love how you're getting a better speed from f-ing space than I am with a hardline connection from Spectrum at 80 dollars a month,” one respondent says on Reddit.

In fact, according to the speed test by Ookla, that’s faster than 95% of the United States ... and Starlink costs just $99/month. That’s a little hard to fathom given that Starlink is bouncing signals to orbit before returning them down to earth. While Starlink satellites are in “low-earth orbit,” that’s still 342 miles or 550 kilometers above the planet’s surface.

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Surprised Tesla lasted this long, and surprised even more that Tesla stock has risen and damn look at their sales figure.

All very interesting.


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markz said:
Surprised Tesla lasted this long, and surprised even more that Tesla stock has risen and damn look at their sales figure.

All very interesting.


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Yeah, what I believe causes the biblical rise in Tesla's stock price (despite being a comparatively tiny car maker in annual production numbers compared to Toyota/Volkswagen etc) is the self-driving technology.
When you watch Bloomberg or articles talking about how important Tesla's production numbers are and the cost of production it is just bullshit compared to the value of it's self-driving technology. I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla could be zero cars and its stock price would hold up.

If you watch the most famous Tesla critics, they still just concentrate on Tesla's annual production car numbers etc, so they are kind of silly. They seem to fully ignore the Tesla valuation of self-driving technology.
https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts

https://twitter.com/StanphylCap
https://twitter.com/markbspiegel
^I believe these guys hate Elon Musk/technology ultimately only because they believe they can make money betting on Tesla's stock price going down.
I follow these guys on Twitter but they have been so very wrong, but if you look at their stuff and ignore FSD technology it all seems very logical.
The funny thing about @markbspiegel's Twitter account is he merely tweeted along the lines of "Goldman Sachs bank is a whore for giving Tesla stock an upgrade to a BUY rating"...
And Twitters AI algo's automatically assumed he was accusing someone of being a "whore" and permanently suspended his account, he had about 30,000 followers. :lol:
I made a LOL emoji but what Twitter is doing is wrong, it seems pretty clear they have deliberately ignored Mark's appeal for de-suspension and left his account locked simply because they don't like him and his opinions on Elon Musk/Tesla etc.

Apparently, self-driving technology that works is worth 1trillion dollars. And being able to do self-driving technology that doesn't involve using expensive LIDAR gear (which typically costs $100k) and instead just uses simple cheap optical cameras etc makes his self-driving solution tech worth even more.

Watch this new video of Tesla's FSD beta. It basically looks like it can handle pretty much anything now. The guy making this video is just some random Tesla fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiwE_HVK8TY
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It makes sense really. If you check out the road deaths by country/annual stats you see India loses about 207,551 people per year on their roads, this is FAR more deaths than even Covid19 in India. And with India doing lockdowns like every other country then it is possible covid19 has saved more lives in India than it has taken, merely from stopping people being mashed on the roads via lockdowns... And the people being mashed on the roads would be comparatively healthy mobile people, not people who are super frail on their death bed already...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

https://youtu.be/WiwE_HVK8TY?t=63
^There is no argument that if Tesla's FSD was in every single car in the world they would save 1million lives a year.

On another subject, it looks like Jeff Bezos' Project Kuiper is more advanced technology than Elon Musks Starlink, it promises considerably faster internet speeds and uses considerably smaller antenna terminals etc.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/project-kuiper-amazon-shows-off-low-cost-satellite-broadband-terminals-for-its-starlink-rival/
Amazon reckons the smaller and lighter terminal will cut production costs by an "order of magnitude".
 
Musk saving lives with self driving cars will be offset by the contract he signed with the military

its cheaper and quicker to load one of his rockets with weapons/missiles/, only takes 6 hours from the USA to some battle ground in the middle east for delivery

that way they can kill even more innocent people of foreign countries
 
goatman said:
Musk saving lives with self driving cars will be offset by the contract he signed with the military

its cheaper and quicker to load one of his rockets with weapons/missiles/, only takes 6 hours from the USA to some battle ground in the middle east for delivery

that way they can kill even more innocent people of foreign countries
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Self driving cars does have the evil side of taking jobs, and originally I was against it since people need all the work they can get their hands on.
But I realised that self driving cars is the best hallmark of how much automation has swept in and stolen jobs, I think once people see full Tesla FSD out there it will help the next president see Trump's argument that the USA should shut the borders from crap arbitrary people because it's very clear they will be useless and the only thing new migrants will do is push up the cost of living for everyone else in the USA. The only migrants that Trump argued he wanted to let in were very skilled migrants etc, which really should have been a rule 20 odd years ago, when the cost of living started to really get unbearable for the average person.

I thought this guy had some interesting things to say on what UBI (in the YouTube URL below) can do for a country once too much of the workforce becomes redundant, ultimately he believes it helps Trump's original vision of shutting the borders etc because when you have UBI everyone in the 3rd world is going to be willing to slim to the USA to live there, so there won't be any more easy immigration into the USA, instead it will totally destroy viability mass immigration of useless crap people, except for the most extreme brainwashed people from MSM.
General topic of UBI https://youtu.be/LLNidfpBf9I?t=856
How UBI doesn't necessarily push up prices https://youtu.be/LLNidfpBf9I?t=1328
How UBI should logically end the system of mass-immigration of crap useless people https://youtu.be/LLNidfpBf9I?t=1535
Basic level of quality for living for all that would be good for arts and culture, and how automation puts everyone out of work https://youtu.be/LLNidfpBf9I?t=1963
Ultimately Elon Musk is inadvertently helping to cause all this with self-driving cars.

Trump once tweeted this.
I hope we never find life on other planets because there's no doubt that the U.S. Government will start sending them money!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474188805541748736?s=20

Ultimately everyone's frustration with cost of living pressure falls to "Supply and Demand Law"
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=71258&p=1598475&hilit=Supply+Demand#p1598475

Below look at Elon's Tesla stock price chart valuation vs all the other major carmakers combined! Not that I have participated in any way of Tesla stock price.

Like I said in my last post, all the Tesla bears focus on dumb things like Tesla's quarterly car production numbers etc when the overwhelmingly obvious fact is the super valuation is entirely based on Tesla Full Self-Driving car tech, which they almost fully ignore which is kind of retarded way to evaluate the company.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9082629/Tesla-valuable-worlds-seven-car-makers-combined-600bn.html
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So like shown in other videos the FSD feature in Tesla cars has turned from a bit of a joke to something that is really quite remarkable now.
I still can't help but look at it and think that if all cars were just on FSD there would be a massive drop in traffic accidents because people just can't be trusted, they are either on drugs/whatever or distracted.

More FSD cars would be far more compatible with other FSD cars on the road than other human drivers...

Watch this Tesla Model 3 with 'full self-driving' make a 358-mile trip across California with almost no human intervention
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/watch-this-tesla-model-3-with-full-self-driving-make-a-358-mile-trip-across-california-with-almost-no-human-intervention/ar-BB1cuty4?ocid=msedgdhp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPrsRM2cxGs
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