Eurobike 2015 thread

[Miles]

http://www.eurobike-show.com/

2014: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61795
2013: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=53059
2012: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42538
2011: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31195
2010: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21186
2009: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13019

 

[Hillhater]

just browsing and bumped into the "Vert event" site which seems to be a big European retailer of Ebikes...
http://www.vert-event-angers.fr/vtt-electrique/712-full-e1-8717611783520.html
Basicly, i was stunned by the huge range of Commercial Ebikes from all the big manufacturers. ( RH side listings on that site)
apart from old fav's liike A2B, there are,..Focus, Giant, Gitanes, Peogeot, Solex, Kalkhoff, Stromer, etc etc
Giant , for instance lists 20+ different models of Ebike,. townies, MTBs, tourers, Folders, hub motors, mid motors, various battery options , etc etc
Peugeot are similar with hubs as well as Bosch mid drives ( various power levels)
I am simply amazed at the rate of development in this market !

 

[dogman dan]

E bikes have totally reached critical mass in Europe. As boomers there get old, they turn to assist. Since they ride more there in the first place, it's happening faster there.

 

[spinningmagnets]

Gasoline in the EU remains much more expensive than in North America, and that has to play a role in the culture and decision-making there...

(Edit: random fuel price chart from the Internet deleted, it was old and out of date)

 

[izeman]

Diesel is ATM around 1.05 to 1.20€ a litre here in austria (and germany where I've been last week). With a 10% plus from dollar to euro that not THAT much difference any more.

 

[Hillhater]

Spinner, I don't know where your table came from, but they certainly messed up the Australian gas price for one...
Even at $1.50 litre ( but very changeable and currently $1.20), the USA equivalent price would be under US$4.50 gal.
Diesel is very similar, usually under US$5.00 /gal
I'm not convinced its fuel prices that is pushing the move to Ebikes, driving a car in most European cities ( and Australia !), has become a freekin nightmare, with congestion charges and parking almost impossible at any cost.
Someone recently bought a parking space in Sydney for $240,000 !
I really do believe its convenience , together with the increased availability, that is behind this move to Ebikes.

 

[panurge]

Just my facts....
Actually I'm in Germany (Berlin) and gasoline in my neighborhoods is priced from 1.3 (95oct with 10% of bioethanol) and 1.4 (102 oct ultimate unleaded), Diesel could be found even at 1.15 - 1.2 somewhere.
In Italy (Florence) Gasoline is Around 1.5 (all euro prices) for a 95 oct.

In Italy and Germany You can use LPG or Natural Methane Gas cars due to the high number of Stations.

For Instance I can Drive from Florence (Italy) to Berlin Via Österreich with my small OPEL Corsa 1,2L with 70 Euros of methane without a single liter of gasoline. (1400Km).

Italy is one of the countries that sells more bicycles in europe and with a great tradition, but In Germany, even with the unfavorable weather conditions compared to Italy, a lot more bicycles and e-bikes are actually circulating. Culture, policies and Infrastructures are the main reasons for that, sure not the weather nor the flats/hills questions. Italy is a mountain country and Germany is mostly Flat.

Here In germany there are lot of people using muscular bikes not even owning a car....but (it is an idea not supported by true statistics datas) I think that most E-bikers owns at least also a gasoline Car.

In Florence Center town a car rental company (CTG to be clear) is allowed to circulate with petrol cars even if the town is equipped with more than hundred free electric charging points (each one with at least 4 points and reserved parkings) and the center is mostly forbidden to any car if not residential ones. In Freiburg im Breisgau where there is a 20 years old green administration the same company is allowed to use only electric cars......
Things are more complicated and less rational than expected....well, all is more rational if you analyze everything from the right (very few) pockets perspective....

 

[Miles]

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http://road.cc/content/news/162202-mad-bikes-eurobike-concept-1865-e-velocipede

 

[Miles]

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/blog/post/electric-ebikes-eurobike-2015/

Not sure about the "interesting" bit....

 

[Miles]

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http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/internet-of-things/full-size-e-bike-unveiled-germany-2015-08/

 

[Hillhater]

Really Miles ! How many more "virtual" Ebikes do we need ?
..and this really made me larf..

.....It even tells the rider when they are cycling up or down hills. -

Really useful !

 

[Miles]

Well, the topic is for new things at Eurobike 2015 Presumably, they'll have a display bike there.. Anyway, it's just a development from an existing line: https://www.mandofootloose.com/en/index.jsp

 

[kiwiev]

In Florence Center town a car rental company (CTG to be clear) is allowed to circulate with petrol cars even if the town is equipped with more than hundred free electric charging points (each one with at least 4 points and reserved parkings) and the center is mostly forbidden to any car if not residential ones. In Freiburg im Breisgau where there is a 20 years old green administration the same company is allowed to use only electric cars......
Things are more complicated and less rational than expected....well, all is more rational if you analyze everything from the right (very few) pockets perspective....

This is so cool if they could offer power outlets for Ebikes that would be awesome Australia really needs to think like this especially in sydney cbd.

Cheers Kiwi

 

[efMX Trials Electric Freeride]

some Interesting Electric Bikes at EuroBike 2015 ..

2016 Haibike xDuro Downhill bike, the only eBike at eurobike with triple clamps??

Taking a look what goes on inside the new Shimano Steps crank drive motor..

what it looks like in the new Bosch Performance CX drive unit..

24″ kids electric bike from Haibike, with Yamaha power system..

Brose powered electric fat bike with modular frame..

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/blog/post/electric-ebikes-eurobike-2015/


edit: opps maybe a bit more interesting with some pretty ebike / motor pictures included ??

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/blog/post/electric-ebikes-eurobike-2015/

Not sure about the "interesting" bit....

 

[efMX Trials Electric Freeride]

Bees modular bike transforms and adapts to your riding ..

"Bees Bike has a completely modular design that lets you quickly change over from hardtail to full suspension. You can also adjust sizing and positioning with ease.."

http://www.gizmag.com/bees-modular-bike/39138/

 

[Miles]

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http://www.gizmag.com/comodule-automated-e-bike-eurobike/39160/

 

[Miles]

Anybody get a close look at this?
http://www.eurobike-show.com/eb-en/eurobike-award/award-gallery-product/2015/1947/

From the Bike Europe Journal:

 

[izeman]

Interesting concept but i dont get the benefit of this added complexity. A nexus 8 speed hub can easily accomplish the same thing and if anything breaks you can fix it with freely available parts.

 

[Miles]

A nexus 8 speed hub can easily accomplish the same thing and if anything breaks you can fix it with freely available parts.

You can fix your Nexus 8 speed hub when it breaks?

 

[izeman]

fix = replace