I disagree!Great looking electric car and I hope it serves you well yopappamon.
I think that these lead acid battery cars are ripe for packing with lithium, but that would not really be cost effective
MitchJi said:I disagree!
Nissan Leaf modules are very cost effective!
alfantastic said:Interestingly, there's a '95 plated one on eBay at the moment. At least the seller is honest with the faults it has.
Would make a great project car and probably wouldn't need too much skill to fix up like new.
1995 Geo Solectria electric conversion Metro
I think 2c is a more accurate figure, but a 600A controlleroatnet said:I don't have direct experience, but I thought I read that without active cooling, the leaf cells were best at loads below 1c cont, Is that correct? If so, a 600a controller would need a 600ah pack to meet discharge requirements; 600ah would make for a nice range, but it would weigh a ton and be pretty expensive.MitchJi said:I disagree!
Nissan Leaf modules are very cost effective!
So a 120AH pack is 90% of a full Leaf pack. I think the Leaf is a heavier car and it works fine. If anyone wants to build a dragster then I agree that the Leaf Modules are not a good choice.156 volt nominal battery pack (from the factory thirteen 12 volt lead–acid gel cells)
22 Leaf Modules = 158.4V nominal 60AH = $2,860
44 Leaf Modules = 158.4V nominal 120AH = $5,720 (full Leaf pack is 48 modules)
Sweetyopappamon said:Going to go Lithium. Harold found this Chevy Volt pack and we are splitting it.
Can you keep the entire pack? It would be almost 90% of the capacity of the 185Vx100AH pack, which would give you a hwy range of over 90 miles.evalbum solectria builds said:Batteries: 58 Calb CA100, 3.20V 100AH, Lithium Iron Phosphate
System Voltage: 185 Volts
Range: 125 city, 105 hwy
Batteries: 13 Deka Group 27 Gel, 12V, AH: 90, Lead-Acid, Gel
System Voltage: 156 Volts
Range: 35 miles on new batts
Batteries: 13 MK Battery 8G27M, 12V, AH: 88, Lead-Acid, Gel
System Voltage: 156 Volts
Range: 30 Miles (48 Kilometers)
AFAIK you are the first on ES to get a Volt pack, be sure and post everything you find out .yopappamon said:Anyone know if I can use the battery management system and keep the cells in their pack groups?
Not in my opinion. $4,500 for a rust bucket?alfantastic said:Looks like they're struggling to sell this one, as it got relisted at the same price as before :?alfantastic said:Interestingly, there's a '95 plated one on eBay at the moment. At least the seller is honest with the faults it has.
Would make a great project car and probably wouldn't need too much skill to fix up like new.
1995 Geo Solectria electric conversion Metro
Is it really worth $4,500?
MitchJi said:I think 2c is a more accurate figure, but a 600A controller
MitchJi said:How much did it cost and where did Harold get it?
MitchJi said:Can you keep the entire pack? It would be almost 90% of the capacity of the 185Vx100AH pack, which would give you a hwy range of over 90 miles.
MitchJi said:AFAIK you are the first on ES to get a Volt pack, be sure and post everything you find out .
Wonderful ! That's an excellent price ! About $3k less than Nissan Leaf modules (about 1/3rd the price)! Thank you! Time to google the Volt pack specs and to start looking for a used Volt pack!yopappamon said:I'm not sure how he found it originally, but it ended up on ebay before we had a chance to close a deal. $1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over a grand cheaper than new lead.
I hope you start a dedicated thread on the Volt pack and convince me to change my signature!MitchJi said:The best bang for the buck in large format lithium cells (30 Ah) are used Nissan Leaf modules (2s2p -7.2v nominal, 60 Ah) available for about $140 shipped. Check the links in my signature for more information.
Under $5k for a nice EV, with a range equal to or better than a $28k Nissan Leaf! Congratulations! Well done!yopappamon said:I should go from 820 pounds of lead to 450 pounds of lithium (minus the Volt mounting assembly). I may have to add some ballast to keep the tires on the road!
MitchJi said:How many amps is the controller rated for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c01VgkT4UMMitchJi said:.AFAIK you are the first on ES to get a Volt pack, be sure and post everything you find out .