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No salt here yet. It hasn't even snowed! Its below zero though. That'll definitely generate some cooling
condensation inside the hub that should be protected.
condensation inside the hub that should be protected.
broloch said:I am using a Crystalyte motor which is notorious for rusting and corrosion.
Would it be enough to open up the motor and coat the inside with this: (was mentioned previously in this thread)
I would not "seal" the motor. Is there anything else that is important to have done? I read that putting a hole is no good unless it can be plugged (for maintenance).
Is there anything else to help prevent severe damage to the Crystalyte hub motor?
Fluid Film Rust and Corrosion Prevention
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I really don't like consumer products available at department stores; it's all pretty crappy shit. Mind you they will protect better than nothing on a chrystalite hub. I have 2 408's front and rear. The water will get in no matter what and a small hole on one side is insignificant compared to how much gets by the axle bearings. If you leave your bike outdoors in the rain, it drips down the forks and onto the axle and then into your motor; A hole on the side cover means absolutely nothing . it is nowhere near the flowpath of water.broloch said:Yeah. I want to still be able to ride through some of the winter. I wouldn't ride on days of active snowing, or slushy conditions. Otherwise, I would use the ebike and make use of it. I would hate to make it go to waste because of a bit of temperature drop. However, it would suck a lot more if I used the ebike during the winter, and had it rusted out and corroded and have the motor NOT work in the spring/summer following.
johnrobholmes said:I would prefer a waxy film so that it didn't get slung around and leak out. An extra coating on my vital parts.
lifepo4ever said:ok so how can I securely drill a hole for my 2807 , is it secure to drill at the half distance of the motor center I need to see where because I have my new motor in my hand
My motors have never leaked out anything but I see no reason why not to try both corrosion treatments.grindz145 said:This definitely seems to be the tradeoff here. Can you use both? ACF-50 and then a nice juicy topping of Wurth film?johnrobholmes said:I would prefer a waxy film so that it didn't get slung around and leak out. An extra coating on my vital parts.
Julez said:Maybe I am onto something with the butylcaoutchouc I use for sealing the flanges.
lifepo4ever said:hey guy I found this product for 11$ from my canadian tire store http://www.corrosionfree.com/automotive.htm I will test it for you this week...[/quote="lifepo4ever"]
I like the price and availability in Canada of that one. You'll probably have to post back after winter
with the long term results. Then we'll have some real world tests to consider. The only one that's
really proved itself on a hub motor over a winter is the Wurth film. Maybe it will be more consumer
available after those ebike stores have used it for a while.
lifepo4ever said:have been tested for 3 days now and I ride in the slush and snow and the chain still have lube I will post a video of my daily drive also
here the weather is very extreme , blizzard,wet snow , sometime I ride in 5 inch of snow for + 30mph wind I want to proof to people Ebike is
good weather resistant when you know what to do to protect for bike .
lifepo4ever said:hey guy I found this product for 11$ from my canadian tire store http://www.corrosionfree.com/automotive.htm I will test it for you this week because i ride my new ebike on snow I will also drill a hole to my side cover and give him a good shoot
the product resist to 260 Degree no leaking no solvent ,its a gel like and also Di-electric to 40,000 volts
they said to soak the metal in so the stuff stay on the surface for 18 month , its to good to be true you can even use like a lubricant
so stay tuned i will reply in 1 week or two
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