Better solution for modular 18650 setups?

lvl99MemeWizard

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I have a lot of devices like flashlights and USB C bank enclosures that run on 18650's so I want to keep my cells portable/modular and thus not punch soldered together. BUT I also want to use 9-ish of them to power a small inverter in case of a power outage. So I looked into premade plastic shell solutions and found shockingly little. I picked up 2 types to test with and they're both awful. See pics.

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The quad series one, according to its own specs, melts those pathetic wires above 30 watts so I thought no problem, I'll attach thicker wires. Oops, can't do that without cracking it open. Also it turns out the inverter I wanted to use doesn't like 16.8V. I could have sworn it was 10.4v low to 18.5 high but nope. It's like 14.8V max or something. So as for the other single ones that use thick metal clips, I thought I was on to something since they said you can connect them via soldering or spade terminals.

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So I mocked up a temporary and very poorly made test setup on a 2x4. It's 3x2p right now with one series with spades stuck behind the clips to make good contact. I can't imagine where else they were intending me to stick them. Now the batteries are insanely difficult to take in and out due to the pressure and the wires keep pulling out. So that's awful. And for the 2nd series, soldering onto the tiny metal part turned out to be almost impossible but I did it. It's tiny, slippery, and flat and right next to plastic. I suspect they're either generally awful or I'm doing both of their suggested methods incorrectly but seriously, they couldn't have made the metal spikes rings instead? Really?!

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My only other idea is some sort of insulated tube with screw-on ends and thick gauge springs that I can alligator clip or solder together with fairly low gauge wire into a 3s3p arrangement but I'd rather buy a premade solution. Anyone got any ideas or gear that works easily while still letting the batteries be quickly removable? I also thought magnets would be pretty slick though a bit dangerous but I couldn't find anywhere selling magnets with wires already soldered to them.
 
Besides these keywords

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aendless-sphere.com%2Fforums+solderless+OR+no-weld

use NESE or N.E.S.E

Vruzend

Nishi

others


https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=99213


https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1524396#p1524396


https://www.electricbike.com/diy-battery-pack-kits-four-options-2017

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3299889-A123-Receiver-Battery-Construction

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1480367#p1480367

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=99012

https://www.google.com/search?q=snath+solder-less+site%3Aendless-sphere.com


https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=86864
 
I recommend that you do not use the spring for the conductor. Between the two styles shown (coil spring and leaf spring) I would prefer the leaf spring, and then install a strip of copper sheet between the spring and the cell-end.

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Wow that Vruzend and Nishi tech are pretty darn nice solutions! That'd be perfect, though taking the batteries out would be slightly more difficult but doable. I also love the idea to use copper strips instead of gigantic spade terminals for the effective wire gauge increase and the thinness using these easy screw-down ones though I'm not sure "easy" would describe removing the batteries and it's just asking for a short lol. I could wrap copper foil around those tiny 3mm-ish spikes then staple gun it down to maintain contact but I double by giant Stanley staple gun has that level of precision.

How many watts do you think it'd legitimately take to melt those spring coils in the quad pack? I could get multiple triple packs instead of quads and then use the existing leads for a small LCD voltmeter and then solder/clip onto the positive spring a decent gauge wire. Then for the negative one, do a short wide copper strip run to a ring terminate that goes to a thick wire for negative and tada, low gauge leads from each series.

Btw I tried running the 3s2p block of wood of doom on my inverter and it ran a 100 watt load just fine with no alarms! Yay! These Sony Murata cells are impressive.
 
Oooooh now this looks interesting. Motley Mods makes a triple sled that has loops that they claim can do up to 14 gauge wire! Hurray for the vape nation lol. Too bad they're like $6-7 ea! By the way, I just now figure out that those normally downward facing thin spikes on the black single holders are for soldering to a PCB. I cannot believe that took me days to realize. I have literally seen them soldered to PCBs before lol.
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lvl99MemeWizard said:
...I'm not sure "easy" would describe removing the batteries and it's just asking for a short lol.
What about placing ribbons under the cells? Then you can pull up on the ribbon to release the cell from the holder in a more controlled manner.
 
My world contains far too many little shavings and granules of ferromagnetic material for me to trust any electrical contact that depends on magnets.

I’d feel that way even if I weren’t a mechanic and a machinist.

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