Eternal outskirts of Moscow and beyond (LOTS of pics!)

[Skorohod]

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32. Cental heating junction box... building.


33. And then i've arrived to the wasteland Here was the "path throug tall grass meadow" from the last trip with the Wild Ones.


34. And here was the overgrowings (if that's even a word) with a view to a Kolomenskoye.


35. Now you can see just through the whole wasteland! Yes, just like in the 1980's, when there was the fields. And just like the centures ago before that (when here was floodmeadows). The concrete things - is the dumping channel from the sewer water treatment plant, btw.


36. There is a literally thousands of tonnes of the ground was moved around!


37. The place is unrecognisable!


38. The bridge across the channel seems so small now.


39. The the yellow gravel road - what a nice surprise!


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[Skorohod]

41. Despite all groundbreaking changes (pun intended) the views to a Kolomenskoye are still there and not dissapointing at all.


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43. What is this?


44. It's a huge patch of the asphalt right in the middle of nowhere.


45. Because why not, right?


46. It's a litterally thin layer of the asphalt just poured over rough ground!


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48. And there a yellow gravel road again.


49. Without all this box elder overgrowth this hill suddenly popped out. There is a pressurised sewer lines underneath Moscow river and this is the maintenance access point.


50. The giant mammuth behind the fence.

 

[Skorohod]

51. Now there is a distant view to a Nikolo-Perervinsky Monastery.


52. The road is blocked in exactly the same place as in my trip in the late spring of 2022. Some things are always constant!


53. The hills of... stuff started to appear.

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55. The sawdust mountains!


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58. The mountainous road with a view, so to speak.


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60. The view to a frobidden Pererva islands. The time are still there.

 

[Skorohod]

61. And this is the spot, where "The Nocturnal Bacchanalia" took place.


62. Beyond this point all was practically the same.


63. All in its right places.


64. That road Petroshina tires was OK on this types of the surface, btw.


65. The grip was just enough for me.


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67. Time to leave the "legendary Kur'yanovo wasteland" once again.


68. ЮВАО МОСКВА


69. That's a jailhouse!


70. And that's a new exhibit in Pechatniki District - an old German shipyard crane!

 

[Skorohod]

71. I've tried to read the writing on the crane with a Till Lindemann voice and laught uncontrollably.


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73. And there is a cranes of the still-in-service Moscow Southern River Port.


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77. The railroad to the Southern River Port.


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[Skorohod]

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85. The Sumitomu-san and Komatsu-san!



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[Skorohod]

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92. There is something going on with the ZiL plant Thermo-Electric Central. Those two chimneys could be perished.


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And this is all for this week!

 

[Skorohod]

That GAZ M21 Volga is beautiful. It would make a great EV conversion. The photo looks to be either a 1st generation or a 2nd generation because of the hood ornament.

It actually could be the very late generation (cheaper and easier to mend) model decorated as the early ones (because they looked cooler, yeah!).

 

[nicobie]

Loved the pictures.

Do you guys have PRESSURISED sewers? Run by the government?

 

[Skorohod]

Loved the pictures.

Thank you!

Do you guys have PRESSURISED sewers? Run by the government?

Oh yes, that we have a lot! The Moscow itself is a relatively flat in general, but has a many local terrain unevenness at the same time. So building a fully gravity sewer system in such conditions is the next to impossible task.

There is a truly pressurised sewers run between pump stations for kilometers, there is a pump stations pumping a sewer from a lower gravity sewer pipe to a higher ones, there is the siphon sewer bypasses underneath the rivers (no need to powered pumps here, since it is from a higher bank to the lower - the gravity doing pumping just fine).

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Megawatt pumps on fire off the shoulder of Kur'yanovo Sewage Treatment Plant... I watched beams of pressurised sewer water in the dark near the Main Sewer Line Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

All this is runned by the MosVodoKanal (literally the "Moscow Water Channel"). It's a semi-government organisation, quite powerful and rich (supplying the water to the 20+ million of people is doomed to be profitable). They has a pretty good museum called simply "The Museum of Water". Love to visit it from time to time - i'm really into all that urban technology stuff!

 

[nicobie]

It's hard for me to visualize a 20m stream of runny brown shit being sprayed into the air. The smell must have been intense.

So much for dinner.

 

[Skorohod]

Sorry to be a downer, but no, there wouldn't be a 20m fondue fountain The pressure made by pump stations is just enough to transport sewage from one level underground to the higher one. To make a fountain above the ground you'll need a lots and lots of surplus pressure, and it's sure will cost in the energy consumption and the complexity of overall infrastructure.

The good sewer operator would never overpressurise its shit!

As for smell, it's not that bad. The human sense of smell is a strange thing, so sewage waters in the big city smell... like stale water or swamp with something died in it a long time ago. The smell is not even that intense in the first place! It has something to do with a dissolution its erm... smelly contents with a high amount of tap water and soap. If one can recon the structure of a typical city apartment water consumption - it makes sense!

 

[amberwolf]

Sorry to be a downer, but no, there wouldn't be a 20m fondue fountain

Wouldn't that be "fonpoo"?

 

[Skorohod]

"fonpoo"

I'm often google a made-up words like this one to amuse myself. Little did i now - the fonpoo is actually exists!

 

[Skorohod]

This batch of photos i've took on my way during my next trip to the "legendary Kur'yanovo wasteland". Yes, i was that interested! Since it was about ~50 photos taken outside said wasteland, i've decided to publish them separately. The weather was nice, the summer of 2023 was starting.


01. The new roads and buildings replaced the old ZiL automobile plant realm.


02. This particular building was hit by the UAV several weeks after this photo was taken.



03. The old chimneys of the ZiL powerstation is still standing.


04. The late 2000's panel buildings (the И-155 in the background) seems already outdated in comparison to the new apartment buildings in the front. Luzhkov era vs Sobyanin era as it is.


05. Someone has a nice view to the chimneys! But not everyone can cherish such view.


06. The new bridge across one of the Moskva river backwaters.


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08. The apartment building industry in Moscow are still booming. And i still wonder where all this people would work. It's like only the residential buildings all around with little to none the office or industrial buildings. I hope i'm miscalculating something.


09. Here would be new broad embankment of Moskva river. These aerial powerlines are probably next to go, being replaced with new underground powerlines. The train on the bridge is the "nomernoy" (the "numbered one") - is on the verge of extinction too.


10. The Nagatino Metro Bridge and the panel buildings of Nagatino itself.

 

[Skorohod]

11. "The Nagatinsky Backwater District".


12. The "nomernoy" again.


13. The "nomernoy" and the 1-МГ-601 building behind. It's not just panels - it's built on a reinforce concrete frame, so panels are just hanging outside. This was the only available technology in the early 1960's USSR to quickly and cheaply build a 16-24 storey buildings from a standard factory-made constructions. The "true" panel-only buildings of such height was not just there yet.


14. The former Institute of Automotive Technologies is just the office building now.


15. The new Southern River Station. Didn't like it, looks kind of cheap.


16. More of the И-155's - the last of mass produced panel buildings in the Moscow.


17. And those are КОПЭ - the most advanced panel buildings of Soviet era. Some considered them an "elite" class apartments (up to 5 rooms per apartment!). The "elite class panel building" is a strange concept now. But not in the 1980's!


18. This is another bridge across backwater, BTW. There is a lot of backwaters in this area of Moscow.


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[Skorohod]

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22. There is a quite a views opens from that bridge. There is a "Moscow City" skyscrapers far in the mist.


23. The old ТЭЦ-9 powerstation and the Shukhov parabolic radio tower in the right.


24. The cimneys of ZiL powerstation again.


25. The MSU main building is looking shy behind all those new shiny boxes of glass.


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28. Those windsail-shaped panel buildings are derivatives of highly popular in Moscow П-3's. It's looks like they built in the edge of the city, but that is not the case. It's right in the middle. Never trust the photographers!


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[Skorohod]

31. This is most un-Moscow view shot in the middle of the Moscow. Such open spaces is scarce in the big city with tall buildings!


32. This is still-operating the Moscow Southern River Port (the railroad to it i've mentioned in the last set of photos). The sun decided to highlight the II-68 building in the background.


33. All this open water is Southern River Port water area, or aquatoria.


34. The river traffic that evening was quite a light. The barge in the right - is the floating gas station for the fleet (gas as petrol or diesel).


35. The Water Rescue Services.



36. And those peculiar ships is the newest toy in Moscow - those passenger ships are fully electric!


37. Named after small rivers of Moscow (a very nice touch IMO) they supposed to work on the regular passenger lines, integrated with other Moscow's public transportation systems.


38. The info are scarce for now: built on some Saint-Petersburg shipyard, has 2x134 kW electric motors and up to 500 kW*h LiFePO4 main battery. And they are iceworthy too, so no stop in service during winter! Will see.


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[Skorohod]

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42. This group of buildings (the "Iceberg" type) is built upon a site of one of infamous 1999 apartment bombings.


43. There is some small memorial chapel and a monument in the yard of those buildings. The floating gas station is again in the shot, BTW.


44. The further development of highly popular II-68 panel-block buildings: those И-700А's are 22 storey (instead of 16-storey original II-68). Quite an achievement for the building without concrete frame in built with a small concrete blocks mixed with panels!


45. All three of those И-700А monsters.


46. And you can actually see, where the blocks and where the panels were used.

That's it for this week!

I did some trips during summer and first half of autumn, but didn't sort the photos yet. So more to come, when i've find some time and will.

 

[Skorohod]

For those, who interested: this is my blog on the Dzen platform, it's completely in Russian, but autotranslation in your browser would give you a general idea what is what. There is a much more stuff in that blog wich wasn't for this thread on a forum - my old trips of the 2000's made by all sorts of vehicles, but electric: bikes, inflatable boats, the old VAZ-21011 "Kopeyka". There is a lot of subterranean photography too. You can ask me anything you found interesting. And maybe i'll do some translation of posts you would chose.

My old Instagram and FB pages are completely abandoned. Only Dzen and my personal Telegram channel will remain. And this thread, of course!

 

[nicobie]

Your old apartment buildings remind me of the older hotel casinos in Vegas and Laughlin NV. Your newer ones look like Nevada's new ones too.

Those empty roads in the first few pics remind me of a high speed race track. I'd love to take that drop away left at speed.

It's a shame about that drone strike. Stay safe.

 

[99t4]

Photo #36: Are those passenger ferries? And will they accept bicycles?

 

[Skorohod]

Your old apartment buildings remind me of the older hotel casinos in Vegas and Laughlin NV. Your newer ones look like Nevada's new ones too.

And it's not a coincidence - they probably had the same roots in then contemporary architectural styles. And the common principle in all those styles was functionalism. The main difference would be the costs - for a hotel in such place as Vegas one sure can spend some surplus to better decorations and larger rooms, where Soviet apartement architecture was always about the mass production on the factories and cost reduction. But they look alike anyway, when you look from the distance!

Those empty roads in the first few pics remind me of a high speed race track.

That is the optical trickery of the telephoto lens: compressing the distance makes every bump and corner more prominent. It far more flat and dull on the streetview: Google Maps

Photo #36: Are those passenger ferries? And will they accept bicycles?

Yep, those are electric passenger boats (being a ferries as the boats for transporting across a body of water - is a part of their routes, it's kind a zig-zaging between the river banks) and according to a press-release - they sure will accept bicycels! In a matter of fact, all Moscow public transportation vehicles (except the subway trains) should accept bicycles.

As for now, there is two river routes for electric boats in Moscow and both are in a test service. That means no more than 20 people per boat and no bicycles. When the boat reaches its end-of-the-route berth - you should leave the boat and went to stay in the end of the line of next batch of people. So it's more like amusement ride for now rather than a mean of transportation. I've waiting for those boats and routes to enter a full service mode to test it out! I'm a soviet-born, so i hate lines

 

[marvin78]

My old Instagram and FB pages are completely abandoned. Only Dzen and my personal Telegram channel will remain. And this thread, of course!

I bookmarked your Dzen blog, your photography is stunning. Some of them I would like to print out poster size and hang on a wall

 

[Skorohod]

I bookmarked your Dzen blog, your photography is stunning

Yey! Glad to hear that If you ever gonna lost in translation - feel free to ask anything!

Some of them I would like to print out poster size and hang on a wall

Actually, the most of the photographs there has enough resolution to be printed, you can easily access full-size by clicking on the photo first and then right-click with "open image in the other window" or something. At least in the desktop web browsers this works fine. Save it, send to to nearest print shop - and voi-la!