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From: spinningmagnets:
The "Storm" Sondors fatbike crowdfunding campaign on indigogo has been very passionately discussed. I'm making this thread to park some contentious postings that are increasingly off topic, and sometimes devolving into personal attacks (whether said attacks are deserved or not is immaterial, the back-and-forth adds no new information about the Sondors fatbike).
I apologize in advance if a few of the posts that were moved here, actually deserve to stay in the main discussion. I suspect this action will be ongoing, since the summer of 2015 is when the Sondors company will is scheduled to begin delivering their hoped-for product
Main thread can be found here: http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66220
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Charles Fleming was fed this information by Agency 2.0 and did nothing to verify any of these claims whatsoever, reciting verbatim the false claims about the Sondors ebike and the Campaign. It was then distributed to Contributors via a Campaign update, a sickening PR exercise to engender sympathy for a Campaign Owner who is heading up a misleading Campaign on the back of shifting claims, inconsistencies and performance exaggerations.
I cannot understand why I am accused of being a troll and one person is risking a Lawsuit for Slander from Prodeco, things are getting out of hand on the IGG comments page. Why Philip Hillis believes he is a mouthpiece for every contributor or is entitled to speak on their behalf is concerning; that he wishes to see a Company fail with a loss of US jobs and hardship to US families is beyond me, instead he is 100% behind a dubious campaign and supporting a person (hopefully) taking what is left out of $4 million pledges after Agency 2.0 and Indiegogo have taken their cut to place an order for bike assembly in a Chinese factory.
Philip Hillis
1 hour ago
bobkops I agree, that will be great to see, but what will be even better is a year from now seeing a sign that says, Prodeco, going out of business sale. 7000 of us will be doing all we can to make that happen. If you get a chance tell them I said so.
From: spinningmagnets:
The "Storm" Sondors fatbike crowdfunding campaign on indigogo has been very passionately discussed. I'm making this thread to park some contentious postings that are increasingly off topic, and sometimes devolving into personal attacks (whether said attacks are deserved or not is immaterial, the back-and-forth adds no new information about the Sondors fatbike).
I apologize in advance if a few of the posts that were moved here, actually deserve to stay in the main discussion. I suspect this action will be ongoing, since the summer of 2015 is when the Sondors company will is scheduled to begin delivering their hoped-for product
Main thread can be found here: http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66220
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sk8norcal said:aticle talks about Storm Sondors dealing with Asperger,
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-autism-entrepreneur-20150228-story.html#page=1
Charles Fleming was fed this information by Agency 2.0 and did nothing to verify any of these claims whatsoever, reciting verbatim the false claims about the Sondors ebike and the Campaign. It was then distributed to Contributors via a Campaign update, a sickening PR exercise to engender sympathy for a Campaign Owner who is heading up a misleading Campaign on the back of shifting claims, inconsistencies and performance exaggerations.
I cannot understand why I am accused of being a troll and one person is risking a Lawsuit for Slander from Prodeco, things are getting out of hand on the IGG comments page. Why Philip Hillis believes he is a mouthpiece for every contributor or is entitled to speak on their behalf is concerning; that he wishes to see a Company fail with a loss of US jobs and hardship to US families is beyond me, instead he is 100% behind a dubious campaign and supporting a person (hopefully) taking what is left out of $4 million pledges after Agency 2.0 and Indiegogo have taken their cut to place an order for bike assembly in a Chinese factory.
Philip Hillis
1 hour ago
bobkops I agree, that will be great to see, but what will be even better is a year from now seeing a sign that says, Prodeco, going out of business sale. 7000 of us will be doing all we can to make that happen. If you get a chance tell them I said so.