Hillhater said:There is a key difference between "burst" rate and Production rate.
Also everyone knows Musk is a liar and a charlatan, nothing he says is true.
Hillhater said:There is a key difference between "burst" rate and Production rate.
cricketo said:Hillhater said:There is a key difference between "burst" rate and Production rate.
Also everyone knows Musk is a liar and a charlatan, nothing he says is true.
Arlo1 said:Yes the cars never went 0-60 as fast as he said. The price is always wrong. Everyone hates him really...
And he hasn't actually built any cars. And his boosters can't really land and be reused. It's all a conspiracy of lies! I know that's true because a Youtube video said so.Arlo1 said:Yes the cars never went 0-60 as fast as he said. The price is always wrong. Everyone hates him really...
This reminds me of the Toyota "unintended acceleration" scare of 2009. The story went that there was a software bug that meant that the harder you pushed on the brake, the faster the car went. The story went viral, with Youtube videos claiming to show it happening, along with ways to shut down the engine quickly if it happened. Big headlines led to lawsuits and big settlements.TheBeastie said:This owner's Tesla apparently massively accelerated while pulling into the garage, I don't know if it was in auto-pilot etc or not. But the acceleration was so massive that it seriously damaged the basic integrity of the battery/car-body.
Agreed.Punx0r said:Yep, most likely driver error. An ICE suddenly accelerating into the back of another car in traffic is a common occurrence caused by incompetence.
billvon said:Agreed.
And lest anyone think "no one could be that dumb" we have this Tesla owner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHPg2Mi2roI
billvon said:This reminds me of the Toyota "unintended acceleration" scare of 2009. The story went that there was a software bug that meant that the harder you pushed on the brake, the faster the car went. The story went viral, with Youtube videos claiming to show it happening, along with ways to shut down the engine quickly if it happened. Big headlines led to lawsuits and big settlements.TheBeastie said:This owner's Tesla apparently massively accelerated while pulling into the garage, I don't know if it was in auto-pilot etc or not. But the acceleration was so massive that it seriously damaged the basic integrity of the battery/car-body.
Then the NTSB got involved and started looking at the data from the car's computer (which nowadays saves data before a crash, like a flight recorder.) In almost every case of "unintended acceleration," the computer showed that the accelerator was floored and the brake was never touched. Some cases were the floor mat moving and trapping the pedal, but in zero cases was there a brake failure. Had the driver pressed on the brake the car would have stopped.
https://www.manufacturing.net/blog/2016/08/2009-toyota-accelerator-scandal-wasnt-what-it-seemed
Alan B said:I heard from an engineer that a more thorough analysis showed the real time software controls had (in certain circumstances) some serious priority problems (not unlike the lunar lander controlsj failure), and that the controls were in fact at fault.. They did a good job of burying the final analysis. Unfortunately the truth doesn't always see daylight. And some stories were faked. But some of the crashes were real.
This is fake, I been checking out more common videos people watch on Youtube and most of them are fake and folks don't realize it.cricketo said:billvon said:Agreed.
And lest anyone think "no one could be that dumb" we have this Tesla owner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHPg2Mi2roI
When I saw this video, I thought it was staged. But then certain human traits shouldn't be underestimated... and thought of HH
Because they don't deploy unless the deceleration is dangerously high. This guy passed out, his car went into a telephone pole - and he was fine. No injuries other than a sore chest from his seatbelt and from the burst appendix (which is what caused him to pass out in the first place.) If he hadn't disabled emergency braking, then the car likely slowed itself down significantly before impact, to the point where the airbags weren't needed. Sounds like the car did exactly what it was designed to do.TheBeastie said:Guy gets his Tesla Model 3, then wraps itself around a telephone pole, but the airbags NEVER DEPLOYED, goes on the Tesla club website to clomplain.. there are photos in his post..
None of the airbags deployed, not one. How can a front end collision of this magnitude not result in any airbags deploying.
TheBeastie said:Came across this "insurance auction write-off cars junkyard site", the URL already has Tesla in there for write-off Tesla's, looks like there are lots of junked Tesla's to bid on.
I remember Elon Musk giving a speech about how all Tesla batteries will be taken back and recycled, I was dubious.. It seems clear that most will end up in junkyards and bid on and reused on anything conceivably possible and then randomly dumped by its second-hand owner anywhere they find it convenient to do so.
TheBeastie said:Everything That's Wrong With My Tesla Model 3 - Quality Problems
https://youtu.be/FSLTNjGI8hw
[youtube]FSLTNjGI8hw[/youtube]
Sure, but by October Tesla had already produced over 100k M3s and were producing over 4000 per week. ...Arlo1 said:If you watch the video you see he took delivery in November so its still a fairly early production car. And it might have been a car sitting on a lot for a while before he ordered it.
Which is probably the best possible recycling scheme for these. It is always better to reuse something as-is than to reprocess it, using energy and creating waste in the process.TheBeastie said:I remember Elon Musk giving a speech about how all Tesla batteries will be taken back and recycled, I was dubious.. It seems clear that most will end up in junkyards and bid on and reused on anything conceivably possible and then randomly dumped by its second-hand owner anywhere they find it convenient to do so.
Hillhater said:Sure, but by October Tesla had already produced over 100k M3s and were producing over 4000 per week. ...Arlo1 said:If you watch the video you see he took delivery in November so its still a fairly early production car. And it might have been a car sitting on a lot for a while before he ordered it.
.....so its not like this was a "one off" hand made pilot production vehicle.
Either Tesla has not got control of its quality checks, or they are producing a lot of poor quality vehicles ?
lester12483 said:Hopefully Tesla has a profitable year in 2019.