winkinatcha
10 kW
'Kay
Hellooo everybody... been a member here for a while, only really started posting actively in the last month or so...
i have read a boat load of posts, and threads and if I seem familiar or relaxed it's cos I feel like I have listened to years of conversations amongst you.
I have learnt more than I could imagine and deffo feel I am being carried on the shoulders of giants here.
Blah blah blah
Now I have just had what I would call a phenomenal stroke of luck/fortune coupled with a flukey bunch of timings.
This Monday I was made redundant from my job... due to a number of years there, and australian employment laws and a prettty fair company, the redundancy payout means I dont have to worry about income for approximately 6 months.
Without a clue that I was going to be made redundant, over the last 6 months or so,I have been slowly setting myself up to consistantly build e-bikes .
My original intention in getting involved with e-bikes was based around wanting to do 1 good build, a 48v 2kw rear hub build based on a Norco Atomica.
I got the kit from Hyena, but immediately discovered I had no clue, and an atomica frame is not something I wanted to break.
I love the bike so much that I wanted to learn about building e-bikes with some confidence before risking it.
And so I began accumulating e-bikes and components, both secondhand and new.
This included a surprise purchase a few months backof 30 simple 24v 500w kits (hubmotor laced in 26" wheel, generic controller, cutoff brake handles and thumb throttle).
I was offered a price I couldn't refuse for the kits, kinda out of the blue. I'd already purchased two, after being thrilled by the price and robustness of the build, and seeing potentials to run these at 48v up to 2kw. These potentials supported by all the good info on here.
My supplier just wasn't moving the 24v 500w kits at the same rate as higher voltage/wattage kits he has, I'd passed on a few tips to him about bicycles and builds, we had a good rapport and so he offered all his low voltage kits to me, and with freight down from sydney to melbourne, it all seemed a bit of a steal.
Long story short...
I want to start an e-bike business, preferably one that can help sustain me.
I am yet to sell anything, I am yet to advertise anything.
I have six months up my sleeve...
Pretty good workshop space that will be fully functional in a couple of days (Plus I have to get it cleaned up so that it can be used for a photo shoot for a fitness model, I shit you not). The space has already been used to build three kit based bikes in the last month. I have a farm-raised rev-head's competence with mechanics
In my dwelling, I have A room dedicated to hardware hacking from a computer geek past, with low level electronics knowledge and intermittent competence at soldering.
Stock:
15 rear wheel and 15 front wheel 24v 500 boxed from china "kits"
A shortage of high tech (lipo etc) batteries and chargers and am currently trying to source batteries but taking my time..
(only have one high current charger and 3 24v15ah LipofE4 pouch packs from Hyena), A number of hi tech packs that are currently disfunctional but may be recusable or prate-able. More SLAs than I can competantly use (though I do have a solar powered 12 volt system which can use all the SLAs in its battery bank).
have ordered a 24v 10Ah pack from Ping, and I will probably give Chris a shout soon.
Bike wise, probably two sellable builds, two brand new bikes in boxes, two complete 2nd hand e-bikes that need some lovin
A whale load of mid-range quality new bike components and heaps of refurbished cycle parts.
It is my plan to become very familiar with the wheels and controllers of the kits, starting first with the controllers.
incorporating and experimenting with such tweaks as modified shunts,( I want to be able to decrease max current as well as increase, so I can provide legal (here in australia) 250 watt bikes within the best of my capacity.) (Its my understanding that the legal wattage has recently been raised to 250, an extra %) WATTS yeeehah! but there might be a pedelec constraint, yet to find out...)
But with said legality, I also want to see if I can gain higher top end speed, I want to experiment with over voltaging using these controllers but beefed up with more robust components such as Fets and capacitors.
Possibly rewiring the wheels and adding cooling as well.
Possibly my own builds as I make em as well.
Value add to existing kits, looking to eventually build up a functional e bike business, or at the very worst, sell my current "stock" of "simple" kits, preferably to informed punters, without breaking the law or forcing the punter to do so. (trying to cover my arse here ).
I'm giving myself three months to go for it, without the pressure of "having to sell to survive". There are a bunch of processes and business stufff I need to get down, including, god help me, a business plan.
Post three months from now (getting in to our summer here ) I reasses, see if I am entirely up myself, undisciplined and crap or whether indeed I have a workable business.
Only two days post-redundancy now, I feel pretty darn happy I must say but, there are certain "dreamer" aspects about my personality...
I know we are all different, however I would really value members' opinions or thoughts of what they would do in similar circumstance, or even people who have tried and failed, or think "hobby status" is where we all should stay...
Cheers
Joe
Hellooo everybody... been a member here for a while, only really started posting actively in the last month or so...
i have read a boat load of posts, and threads and if I seem familiar or relaxed it's cos I feel like I have listened to years of conversations amongst you.
I have learnt more than I could imagine and deffo feel I am being carried on the shoulders of giants here.
Blah blah blah
Now I have just had what I would call a phenomenal stroke of luck/fortune coupled with a flukey bunch of timings.
This Monday I was made redundant from my job... due to a number of years there, and australian employment laws and a prettty fair company, the redundancy payout means I dont have to worry about income for approximately 6 months.
Without a clue that I was going to be made redundant, over the last 6 months or so,I have been slowly setting myself up to consistantly build e-bikes .
My original intention in getting involved with e-bikes was based around wanting to do 1 good build, a 48v 2kw rear hub build based on a Norco Atomica.
I got the kit from Hyena, but immediately discovered I had no clue, and an atomica frame is not something I wanted to break.
I love the bike so much that I wanted to learn about building e-bikes with some confidence before risking it.
And so I began accumulating e-bikes and components, both secondhand and new.
This included a surprise purchase a few months backof 30 simple 24v 500w kits (hubmotor laced in 26" wheel, generic controller, cutoff brake handles and thumb throttle).
I was offered a price I couldn't refuse for the kits, kinda out of the blue. I'd already purchased two, after being thrilled by the price and robustness of the build, and seeing potentials to run these at 48v up to 2kw. These potentials supported by all the good info on here.
My supplier just wasn't moving the 24v 500w kits at the same rate as higher voltage/wattage kits he has, I'd passed on a few tips to him about bicycles and builds, we had a good rapport and so he offered all his low voltage kits to me, and with freight down from sydney to melbourne, it all seemed a bit of a steal.
Long story short...
I want to start an e-bike business, preferably one that can help sustain me.
I am yet to sell anything, I am yet to advertise anything.
I have six months up my sleeve...
Pretty good workshop space that will be fully functional in a couple of days (Plus I have to get it cleaned up so that it can be used for a photo shoot for a fitness model, I shit you not). The space has already been used to build three kit based bikes in the last month. I have a farm-raised rev-head's competence with mechanics
In my dwelling, I have A room dedicated to hardware hacking from a computer geek past, with low level electronics knowledge and intermittent competence at soldering.
Stock:
15 rear wheel and 15 front wheel 24v 500 boxed from china "kits"
A shortage of high tech (lipo etc) batteries and chargers and am currently trying to source batteries but taking my time..
(only have one high current charger and 3 24v15ah LipofE4 pouch packs from Hyena), A number of hi tech packs that are currently disfunctional but may be recusable or prate-able. More SLAs than I can competantly use (though I do have a solar powered 12 volt system which can use all the SLAs in its battery bank).
have ordered a 24v 10Ah pack from Ping, and I will probably give Chris a shout soon.
Bike wise, probably two sellable builds, two brand new bikes in boxes, two complete 2nd hand e-bikes that need some lovin
A whale load of mid-range quality new bike components and heaps of refurbished cycle parts.
It is my plan to become very familiar with the wheels and controllers of the kits, starting first with the controllers.
incorporating and experimenting with such tweaks as modified shunts,( I want to be able to decrease max current as well as increase, so I can provide legal (here in australia) 250 watt bikes within the best of my capacity.) (Its my understanding that the legal wattage has recently been raised to 250, an extra %) WATTS yeeehah! but there might be a pedelec constraint, yet to find out...)
But with said legality, I also want to see if I can gain higher top end speed, I want to experiment with over voltaging using these controllers but beefed up with more robust components such as Fets and capacitors.
Possibly rewiring the wheels and adding cooling as well.
Possibly my own builds as I make em as well.
Value add to existing kits, looking to eventually build up a functional e bike business, or at the very worst, sell my current "stock" of "simple" kits, preferably to informed punters, without breaking the law or forcing the punter to do so. (trying to cover my arse here ).
I'm giving myself three months to go for it, without the pressure of "having to sell to survive". There are a bunch of processes and business stufff I need to get down, including, god help me, a business plan.
Post three months from now (getting in to our summer here ) I reasses, see if I am entirely up myself, undisciplined and crap or whether indeed I have a workable business.
Only two days post-redundancy now, I feel pretty darn happy I must say but, there are certain "dreamer" aspects about my personality...
I know we are all different, however I would really value members' opinions or thoughts of what they would do in similar circumstance, or even people who have tried and failed, or think "hobby status" is where we all should stay...
Cheers
Joe