Your Creation's Before & After Pics

Thanks,
Of course, as soon as you posted it, Imageshack starts working again.
I've noticed their server chokes frequently.
 
Here's some photos of my bottom bracket drive (just to show I'm capable of engineering something more complex than a friction roller 8) )

Don't have a proper "before" shot, but this is pretty close. Just use your imagination.
 

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After (note yummy Suntour forks. I had to hack a threaded steerer in there because it came with a threadless one. Still, not bad for $60 off ebay).

It topped out about 45kph (28mph) I think it could go faster but my legs were having trouble keeping up. Would have climbed vertically up a wall if it could get traction. 7Ah batteries were dead within about 3km because I was using a 40A controller!
 
Here's a shot of my automatic, spring loaded chain tensioner just because I'm proud of it :lol:
 

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During:

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Bike de Merde was about as practical to pedal as a moped, although I could cut back on energy consumption by doing so. Thing is, instead of being an e-bike proper, it was just an e-motorcycle with pedals. At >40 kg it really handled like shit, it was hard to carry it over any sizable obstacle, even for a flight of stairs I would find myself taking huge detours by the roads because it was too uncomfortable to haul it up (or down) the stairs. It was incapable of passing more then one stair while being ridden, and even then had to be almost stopped to do it, otherwise it was impractical to use shortcuts and other such things that make bicycles so great and otherwise different from motorcycles, that are essentially condemned to ride on the road. It wasn't fast enough to be a good motorcycle either, so it was really just the worst of both worlds.

But I don't want a motorcycle, I want a bicycle. So the goal for next winter is to reduce weight as much as possible so as to have something that actually rides like a bike, in spite of having the power assist, and that means that although it was quite educational, it's the end of the line for this cro-mo frame. R.I.P. Bike de Merde.
 
Yes exactly, and note that I saved it for *after* I was done setting up the bike.
I prefer Trois Pistoles, though. Tastes better and it's got a fire pegasus thing on the bottle.
 
First, thanks to
My local bike shop, "The Bike Shop" in Richardson Texas. Most of the accesories, including the tires, fork, rims, bags were purchased there.

KTA services, I purchased my motor, controller and wiring here. I had to call Ken a couple of times, answered all of my questions completely.

EV Tech, I went to their office in Addison TX, which, at the time I thought was a showroom. Doug Canfield was there and was very interested in what I was building. He steered me to using the odyssey battery. He showed me his hub motor, battery pack that was in his office. I explained to him that I wanted to build something along the line that Eric Peltzer had done. Doug got on the internet, looked at Eric's bike, suggested I use the above battery. We went outside where Doug had his bike in his truck, He pulled it out and said ride, my first electric ride. This was last July in 100 degree weather. His bike is as advertised. I was impressed, rode it around the parking lot several times, power, acceleration, handling, but whoa, $2000. This bike was used and abused, it had a lot of miles on it. I am 6' 1", Doug towers over me, he's pretty big, Pro football size, when he advertises that he has tried to kill this motor, he means it. The bike is light, very light, it handles like a well built mountain bike should.

After building my 1st bike, with speeds close to 30 mph, the raliegh was very twitchy, I was too high, the front end would not track, I could not hold a line and did not feel safe. I put an old rst suspension fork on the bike which helped the tracking and smoothed out the ride. Still, it was uncomfortable at top speed. So, I ordered the manual on the "Cheetah".
The book is worth the $40 I spent on it. But, it is missing some dimensions on the main frame plan, I had to redraw on Cad to find some critical dimensions. After building the main frame to spec., my front wheel hit the front down tube. I cut the original tube off and moved it back 2" from the steering tube and had to bend this tube so I had clearance. Now it is as advertised, light and nimble. 100 lbs. over half is battery, 56 lbs. The batteries are still going strong after 7 months and guessing about a 1000 miles. I just purchased a cat eye computer last month, this bike goes 25.5 mph on the flat, on steep long grades it rarely drops to below 22.5 mph, downhill it never goes faster than 28 mph. Gear ratio is 10.4 to 1 and I am using a scott 1hp motor and allthrax 180 amp controller. Overall, I am generally pleased with the bike, rear shock has an 800lb spring, should be around 4 to 5 hundred lb per the Bidwell manual, front forks from chili works, need more spring, basically, they can't handle the load. I also fell safe at all speeds.
 

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4 Years and 16,000 miles Ago now!!

From This

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Quickly to this

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More lately like this
 

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BEFORE

I just picked this one up off of Craigslist. I missed out on an even better one that had dual crown forks, but I was too slow.

I hope I can make as much improvement a Devin did on his bike.
This might take a while, as I already have too many projects going.
 

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Hi Fechter

Thats a sweet machine what do you intend to do with it? looks like a good candidate for some lipo and a Puma! although it would be a shame in some ways to do that as its sweet looking as it is, it depends on how much you like to sweat!! 8)

Knoxie
 
Nice comfy FS MTB
The battery rack broke over a big bump so i made a light steel one.
The seatpost is now bending -since i load it to the max with groceries and stuff.
Was running at 104V lithium on the DrainBrain -but those batts have only 2ah left in them.
Now running 3 X 24V lithiums from Brett at Solarbbq -only 6kgs!! all-up.
Not as powerful as the other batteries -but get a full 8ahs worth of juice.
Have also made some new battery boxes to fit -have to take a pic of those yet -only finished them this weekend.

408/4011 and 72V20A controller full freewheeling BBDrive.
Nexus8 rear hub

Cheers
Dom
 

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Cracking! whats it go like? top speed? climbing?? very nice, superb frame as well thanks for posting the pics.

Knoxie
 
Very nice, see, you're giving me ideas.

Can we get a close-up of the motor mount?

Knoxie, I fully intend to electrify the red bike. A BMC would be great, but that bottom bracket drive is attractive also.
 
Cheers Guys
At the moment only get about 45kmh top speed - i had it geared for 55kmh at 100V -need one of those super controllers you guys are working on so i can have 4 x 24V pacs.

Will climb 25% hills no worries by itself in 4011 mode -when it was at 104V(DrainBrain reading) -would climb anything and would get to 40kmh.
I rarely used the 408 mode then.
Use the 408 mode mostly at 72V.

I been watching your BMC antics Knoxie :D -if they pan out at 72V i will probably get one and wouldn't mind a setup like Maytag's.
The BBDrive goes well with little maintenace -mainly waxing the chains to keep the noise down -but i would jump on the simpler hub drive if it would go up hills like the BBDrive.

Here's a couple pix of the motor mounts.I machined up v-shaped frame mounts -used pallet strapping for a hose clamp type clamp ,and used some liquid metal between the mounts and frame.
Hasn't budged since. Too much work though -bring on the BMC! lol
 

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Hey Dom,

nice to see you - i was wondering what happened to that bike you'd bought - nice job with the bb, looks very tidy :) do you have any video, we love video you know :)
where the hell are all these fs mtb's coming from? yours,mine,ypedal,maytag,fechter lol comfort is key.
i best crack on and finish mine, need to get onto the freeride machine !!!!
by the way Dom the puma is a cracking little motor ;)

Cheers


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ok wow thats really cool!

very good to see a victorian with one of these.

Saw a petrol powered push bike today. the guy was going a decent rate :)
 
Heyya Deecanio
I see you are finally making progress with your build -long time now :D
As we say -don't rush into things.hehe
I see your hanging to get the 72V happening -you are a patient man and will be well worth waiting to get it right.

Hi Bigh -you didn't happen to see that gasser in Geelong did you?I was zipping around on mine this arvo -gave my electric a bit of a break.
Melbourne would be a choice place for an ebike -hate that traffic up there :shock:

Been meaning to do a vid -had a few tries -but i need more memory on the cam!
Cheers
Dom
 
hehe Dom,

yes patient or lazy ;)
i'm re-arranging my battery setup at the mo and then i'll be going 36v30ah until knoxie gives me the all clear that the fet mod works then i'll be a 72v devil :twisted:
i just got a cam the other day so i will take a quick vid of 36v run before i dismantle the bike to have the batts mounted - i'll pop it in my thread so have a gander if you like.
get some more memory - not enough footage in the world for me :) it's also nice to see other peoples enviroments and bikes in action too.

Cheers


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Looks good Drunkskunk. Clean and neat. You sure you're a "Redneck"? :lol:
 
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