El Niño in the newz. Again.

"Here’s Why Continued Rains Won’t Solve El Nino Phenomenon":
http://www.starminenews.com/heres-why-continued-rains-wont-solve-el-nino-phenomenon/7079/

Includes:
Unfortunately, the water reserve on underground water storage does not fully replace the amount used by farmers. The Central Valley has so far used up a total of 100 cubic kilometers or 811 million acre-feet of underground water since 1962. That translates to about 1.5 million acre-feet of underground water hauled annually by farmers and not replaced either through rainfall or artificial means.

and
The researchers concluded one major rain won’t be enough to fill water reservoirs in Central Valley. In fact, continuous rain might pose greater risks than benefit since certain parts of the Valley, especially the ones planted with almonds, are highly susceptible to flooding.

Meanwhile, in other news:
Cleanup Underway After ‘1,000-Year Rain Event’ in Antelope Valley Damages Homes, Leaves Cars Stranded
http://ktla.com/2015/10/17/mudflows...maged-in-antelope-valley-residents-displaced/

:cry:

"...some 3 inches of rain in the Leona Valley in a span of 30 minutes."
:shock:
 
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=sox&product=NTP&overlay=11101111&loop=no
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2015/10/16/mudflow-on-highway-58/ For these drivers it was Hell Nino. :(
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mudslide-highway-58-20151018-story.html
Cleanup crews continued to clear a shuttered section of Highway 58 east of Tehachapi that was ravaged by mudflows after an intense rainstorm drenched the Antelope Valley last week, stranding hundreds of drivers and passengers.
Currently, one big rig and about half a dozen cars remain in the mud and debris covering an approximately two-mile stretch from Exit 165 to Cameron Road, said Florene Trainor, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Transportation. Loaders and excavators are digging up the dirt covering the highway and carting it away to two different sites, she said.
Mud buries vehicles, closes roads in northern L.A. County
Nearly 200 vehicles, including about three dozen tractor-trailers, were trapped by mudflows that reached five and six feet high in Thursday's storm. Most of the trapped vehicles, including two big rigs carrying bees, have been cleared away. No fatalities have been reported.
The vehicles that remain in the area will be drivable once the mud is scraped off, Trainor said. Highway 58 remains closed in the eight miles between State Route 14 and State Route 202.
The big rig and cars should be cleared away by tomorrow, if not tonight, said Darlena Dotson, spokeswoman for the California Highway Patrol’s Mojave station.
The storm that led to the mudflows was called a 1,000-year event by meteorologists. Dotson said she hadn’t seen damaging flows of this magnitude in the years that she had been working for the CHP or living in the area.
Geologists have surveyed the surrounding mountains to make sure the soils on those slopes are stable.
“We were worried about of the instability of [the soils] if there was another rainstorm, and it looks like it’s good,” Trainor said.
The highway will not be reopened until later this week, possibly Thursday.
“We’re not going to reopen the highway until we have it safe for the traveling public,” Trainor said.
 
http://abc7.com/news/body-found-in-car-buried-6-feet-in-mud-in-palmdale/1042588/ :cry: El Nino claims it's first SoCali victim of the season.
PALMDALE, Calif. (KABC) --
A body was found inside a car buried in mud in Palmdale Tuesday after last week's severe flooding, officials with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department confirmed.
A bulldozer and hand crews arrived at the scene near Karen Drive and Avenue M-8, where the black vehicle was found upside down and tilted sideways in a retention basin at 12:49 p.m.
Crews worked to dig out the car trapped under 6 feet of mud. Earlier while digging, they made the horrifying discovery.
"They discovered what appeared to be a human hand protruding from the vehicle," said Lt. Victor Lewandowski with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department.
AIR7 HD happened to be over the very spot in Palmdale on Thursday as flash flooding trapped drivers.
"It was quite a traumatic experience," Donna, who did not provide her last name, told Eyewitness News Tuesday night.
Donna, who was a passenger in a red car on Thursday, witnessed a dark van go underwater.
"It floated for about five minutes and then disappeared, and it was just very scary," Donna said.
Donna says she called 911.
"We told them a car had gone over and that he was under the water," Donna said.
Monica Hoffman of Palmdale took pictures of the flooding on Thursday.
"It was like a foot of water," said Hoffman. "It looked like rapids going down our street."
"It was probably one of the most terrifying things I've ever dealt with," said Sean Garcia of Quartz Hill. "There was no control. You couldn't get away from it."
The sheriff's department says it was too dangerous for fire crews to try and rescue the buried vehicle on Thursday, and then no one ever reported the driver missing.
"Obviously, if we had known there was a missing person this would have been an absolute top priority for public works, fire and sheriff's," said Palmdale City Manager James Purtee.
Seth Heiner of Lancaster says the ground covering one vehicle seemed solid.
"We never would have thought there could be a car below," said Heiner. "It's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life, to be honest."
The frantic dig started on Tuesday when a public works employee trying to clear the road discovered the vehicle.
The deceased was described as a white male in his 40s who lived in the area. Investigators say on Thursday he was likely driving on the road in the middle of a flash flood.
 
Perhaps it's time to leave that state that's supposed to be a desert? :roll: My state is too, but at least the water comes FROM here.
 
http://abc7.com/weather/mexico-braces-for-strongest-hurricane-in-western-hemisphere/1047403/ :shock:
MANZANILLO, Mexico --
Hurricane Patricia headed toward southwestern Mexico Friday as a monster Category 5 storm, the strongest ever in the Western Hemisphere that forecasters said could make a "potentially catastrophic landfall" later in the day.
Residents of a stretch of Mexico's Pacific Coast dotted with resorts and fishing villages on Thursday boarded up homes and bought supplies ahead of Patricia's arrival.
With maximum sustained winds near 200 mph (325 kph), Patricia is the strongest storm ever recorded in the eastern Pacific or in the Atlantic, said Dave Roberts, a hurricane specialist at the U.S. National Hurricane Center.
Patricia's power was comparable to that of Typhoon Haiyan, which left more than 7,300 dead or missing in the Philippines two years ago, according to the U.N.'s World Meteorological Organization.
In Mexico, officials declared a state of emergency in dozens of municipalities in Colima, Nayarit and Jalisco states that contain the bustling port of Manzanillo and the posh resort of Puerto Vallarta. The governor of Colima ordered schools closed on Friday, when the storm was forecast to make what the Hurricane Center called a "potentially catastrophic landfall."
Rain pounded Manzanillo late Thursday while people took last-minute measures ahead of Patricia, which quickly grew from a tropical storm into a Category 5 hurricane, leaving authorities scrambling to make people safe.
At a Wal-Mart in Manzanillo, shoppers filled carts with non-perishables as a steady rain fell outside.
Veronica Cabrera, shopping with her young son, said Manzanillo tends to flood with many small streams overflowing their banks. She said she had taped her windows at home to prevent them from shattering.
Alejandra Rodriguez, shopping with her brother and mother, was buying 10 liters of milk, a large jug of water and items like tuna and canned ham that do not require refrigeration or cooking. The family already blocked the bottoms of the doors at their home to keep water from entering.
Manzanillo's "main street really floods and cuts access to a lot of other streets. It ends up like an island," Rodriguez said.
In Puerto Vallarta, restaurants and stores taped or boarded-up windows, and residents raced to stores for last-minute purchases ahead of the storm.
The Hurricane Center in Miami warned that preparations should be rushed to completion, saying the storm could cause coastal flooding, destructive waves and flash floods.
"This is an extremely dangerous, potentially catastrophic hurricane," center meteorologist Dennis Feltgen said.
Feltgen said Patricia also poses problems for Texas. Forecast models indicate that after the storm breaks up over land, remnants of its tropical moisture will likely combine with and contribute to heavy rainfall that is already soaking Texas independently of the hurricane, he said.
"It's only going to make a bad situation worse," he said.
In Colima, authorities handed out sandbags to help residents protect their homes from flooding.
By early Friday, Patricia's maximum sustained winds had increased to 200 mph (325 kph) - a Category 5 storm, the highest designation on the Saffir-Simpson scale used to quantify a hurricane's wind strength.
Patricia was centered about 145 miles (235 kilometers) southwest of the Pacific resort of Manzanillo early Friday and was moving northwest at 12 mph (19 kph) on a projected track to come ashore between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta sometime Friday afternoon or evening.
Some fluctuations in intensity were forecast before then, but the Hurricane Center said it was expected to be an "extremely dangerous" Category 5 storm when it made landfall.
A hurricane warning was in effect for the Mexican coast from San Blas to Punta San Telmo, a stretch that includes Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta. A broader area was under hurricane watch, tropical storm warning or tropical storm watch.
The Hurricane Center said Patricia was expected to bring rainfall of 6 to 12 inches, with isolated amounts of up to 20 inches in some locations. Tropical storm conditions were expected to reach land late Thursday or early Friday, complicating any remaining preparation work at that point.
"We are calm," said Gabriel Lopez, a worker at Las Hadas Hotel in Manzanillo. "We don't know what direction (the storm) will take, but apparently it's headed this way. ... If there is an emergency we will take care of the people. There are rooms that are not exposed to wind or glass."
 
"The Strongest El Nino in Decades Is Going to Mess With Everything"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...f-mayhem-around-the-world?cmpid=yhoo.headline

It has choked Singapore with smoke, triggered Pacific typhoons and left Vietnamese coffee growers staring nervously at dwindling reservoirs. In Africa, cocoa farmers are blaming it for bad harvests, and in the Americas, it has Argentines bracing for lower milk production and Californians believing that rain will finally, mercifully fall.

El Nino is back and in a big way.

Its effects are just beginning in much of the world -- for the most part, it hasn’t really reached North America -- and yet it’s already shaping up potentially as one of the three strongest El Nino patterns since record-keeping began in 1950. It will dominate weather’s many twists and turns through the end of this year and well into next. And it’s causing gyrations in everything from the price of Colombian coffee to the fate of cold-water fish.

Expect “major disruptions, widespread droughts and floods,” Kevin Trenberth, distinguished senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado. In principle, with advance warning, El Nino can be managed and prepared for, “but without that knowledge, all kinds of mayhem will let loose.”

In the simplest terms, an El Nino pattern is a warming of the equatorial Pacific caused by a weakening of the trade winds that normally push sun-warmed waters to the west. This triggers a reaction from the atmosphere above.

Its name traces back hundreds of years to the coast of Peru, where fishermen noticed the Pacific Ocean sometimes warmed in late December, around Christmas, and coincided with changes in fish populations. They named it El Nino after the infant Jesus Christ. Today meteorologists call it the El Nino Southern Oscillation.

Record Event

The last time there was an El Nino of similar magnitude to the current one, the record-setting event of 1997-1998, floods, fires, droughts and other calamities killed at least 30,000 people and caused $100 billion in damage, Trenberth estimates. Another powerful El Nino, in 1918-19, sank India into a brutal drought and probably contributed to the global flu pandemic, according to a study by the Climate Program Office of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

As the Peruvian fishermen recognized in the 1600s, El Nino events tend to peak as summer comes to the Southern Hemisphere. The impact can be broken down into several categories. Coastal regions from Alaska to the Pacific Northwest in the U.S., as well as Japan, Korea and China may all have warmer winters. The southern U.S., parts of east Africa and western South America can get more rain, while drier conditions prevail across much of the western Pacific and parts of Brazil.

Threshold Level

During the first full week of October, temperatures across a portion of the central Pacific most watched by researchers reached 2.4 Celsius (4.3 Fahrenheit) above normal, the U.S. Climate Prediction Center said. The threshold at which the Australian Bureau of Meteorology considers an El Nino under way is 0.8 degree Celsius, said Andrew Watkins, supervisor of Climate Prediction Services for the agency.

While the effect on the U.S. may not reach a crescendo until February, much of the rest of the world is already feeling the impact, Trenberth said.

“It probably sits at No. 2 in terms of how strong this event is, but we won’t be able to rank it until it peaks out and ends,” said Mike Halpert, deputy director of the Climate Prediction Center in College Park, Maryland.

“We are definitely hurt by the El Nino,” said Mai Ky Van, deputy director at October Coffee-Cocoa One Member Ltd., a state-owned plantation company in Vietnam’s Dak Lak province. The water level in reservoirs there is down about 67 percent from normal, and while there is enough for the current harvest, “I’m afraid we won’t have enough water for irrigation in the next growing cycle,” Van said.

Coffee, Cocoa

Southern Sumatran and Javanese coffee and cocoa crops will probably be hurt, said Drew Lerner, the president of World Weather Inc. in Overland Park, Kansas.

In addition, fires burning in rain forests in Sumatra, Borneo and New Guinea, many of them set to clear land, have pushed air quality in Singapore to unhealthy levels, and the lack of rain resulting from El Nino is making the situation worse, said Robert Field, an associate research scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies at New York’s Columbia University.

So far this year, about 125,000 people have suffered haze-related ailments, Indonesia’s disaster relief agency said this month.

While much is made of the negative side of El Nino, the phenomenon is more complex.

“It will be a feast or famine climate pattern,” said Scott Yuknis, president of Climate Impact Co. in Plymouth, Massachusetts. “Some crops will suffer too much rain and other regions will be hot and dry. The timing of the peak in this El Nino and how quickly it weakens will also determine the final crop impact.”
Tea, Too

A drought in Kenya may cut tea production by 10 percent. However, El Nino-spurred rains may end up boosting next year’s harvest, Lerner said.

As the atmosphere changes, storm tracks in the U.S., for instance, are pushed down from the north, so the region from California to Florida could get more rain. This is reflected in the latest three-month outlook from the Climate Prediction Center, which sees high odds that heavy rain will sweep from California into the mid-Atlantic states through January. Texas and Florida have the greatest chance for downpours.

While this isn’t likely to end California’s four-year drought, it would improve conditions. Eliminating the dryness completely will be difficult because the state is so far behind on its normal rainfall.

Deficit Remains

“If the wettest year were to occur, we still wouldn’t erase the deficit we have seen in the last four years,” said Alan Haynes, service coordination hydrologist at the California Nevada River Forecast Center in Sacramento.

A lot of rain in Florida could exacerbate orange crop damage from citrus-greening disease, as the psyllid that carries it thrives on moisture, Lerner said. Production will shrink to a 52-year low in the season to Sept. 30 next year, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Cold-water species of fish will move north or into deep water, while others will disperse, NOAA said. This in turn can hurt birds that feed off those fish, causing many to die of starvation or fly far from their usual territories, said Andrew Farnsworth, researcher at Cornell University’s Lab of Ornithology in Ithaca, New York.

For Australia, El Nino can often mean drought.

“In broadest terms, though, we have had 26 past El Nino events since 1900, of which 17 resulted in widespread drought, so we in Australia have to manage for drought in any El Nino event,” Watkins said.

The weather in Australia is also affected by how warm the Indian Ocean gets, which can lead to rainier conditions. Right now, that ocean, like the Pacific, is warm; however, all the other signals point the other way.

“The drys are winning out over the wet,” Watkins said.

Hurricane Impact

Another aspect of El Nino’s scope that would seem positive at first is that there are typically fewer tropical cyclones, the class of storm that includes hurricanes and typhoons, making landfall in Australia during years the phenomenon is active.

“But there is a downside to that -- inland tropical areas get some of their best rainfall from ex-tropical cyclones that cross the coast and head inland as tropical depressions,” Watkins said.

This would have been a benefit for places such as western Queensland, which like California is in the midst of drought.

The Atlantic Ocean also sees fewer tropical systems because of El Nino. Wind shear increases across the basin, tearing at the structure of storms and keeping their number down. While the Atlantic has produced two killer storms this year, the total number of hurricanes and tropical storms has been below the seasonal average.

Trenberth said he hopes all the warning helped people prepare for this El Nino. Planning could help agricultural economies weather the event better than the El Ninos in 1982-83 and 1997-98, perhaps leading to more water being captured for future use and prevent deaths.

“The general thing about these things is, if you are prepared, it doesn’t have to be a negative,” Trenberth said. “One of the biggest challenges that may not be to individuals but to organizations is water and water management. Can you save that water and manage that water so that, when it stops, you can still use it?”
 
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...

There's no guarantee El Niño will bring rain to a drought-stricken California, but it has brought venomous sea snakes.
People in the southern California city of Oxnard stumbled across a highly venomous yellow-bellied sea snake on the beach last week.
Normally, yellow-bellied sea snakes limit themselves to the warmer areas of the Pacific and Indian Oceans. This year, a large El Niño, which periodically disrupts the tropical Pacific's normal weather system, is shifting much of that warm water to the north, bringing tropical species -- snakes included -- with it.

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Its a big El Nino this time they are saying. After big burns, they really don't need big rains in CA. They need soft slow rain. But that's been the cycle for thousands of years. Drought, Fire, Mudslides.

Too bad about Patricia, I was hoping it would track up to New Mexico and give us a drink. We are in a wet year, with 5 inches more rain this year than the last three years average. But we still have no water in the Rio Grande. Instead it tracked to coastal Texas, who hardly needed it. We need a 600 inch snow year at Wolf Creek pass, like the big nino's of the 80's.
 
When it finally decides to rain in California, it can come 7 inches in 7 hours. That's like the standard in rain really letting loose here. And we're all around unsuited to heavy rain even without the fire damage.
 
The fingers said:
We got nothing from the remnants of Olaf also. :(

They were predicting rain here but I only saw a few drops. Not even a measureable trace in my dusty rain gauge.

Large trees are starting to die around here from lack of water.
 
We got some this week, bringing our total for the year up to 10 inches.

Worth noting, the dust bowl disaster caused by yearly rain as low as 10 inches. WOO HOO, we made it to the dust bowl level this year. Usually we get half that.

No tree lives around here without being close to the river. Or being watered by man.
 
From a few days back:
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49550&p=1115254#p1115155

Remember...this is Phoenix, AZ. ;)

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"Was El Niño the Cause of California's Latest Round of Snow?"
http://ski.curbed.com/archives/2015/11/el-nino-california-snow.php

And there's a good chance that this winter will be a strong El Niño. It just hasn't really gotten going yet. As Tolby told said of Monday's storm, ""I think it's important to understand that every El Niño is different. The correlation with receiving above average precipitation is highest in January through March."
 
Wildlife authorities delayed the Dungeness crab season and closed the rock crab fishery for most of California on Thursday, just days after warning of dangerous levels of a neurotoxin linked to a massive algae bloom off the West Coast.
Officials on Tuesday warned people to avoid eating Dungeness and rock crabs. High levels of domoic acid have been found in crabs from the Oregon border to the southern Santa Barbara County line, the Department of Public Health reported.

In severe poisoning cases, the neurotoxin can cause seizures, coma or death.

The toxin is linked to a vast algae bloom off the West Coast—which has seen unusually warm ocean temperatures as a result of El Nino, said Jordan Traverso, a spokeswoman at the California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-11-high-toxin-california-crab-season.html#jCp

That and the poisonous sea snakes around California beaches. What's next?

I got about 0.3 inches of rain last Monday, which is the most we've had since last spring.
 
El Nino screws up the ocean more than it does the land. You all know of course, it was first noticed as poor fishing off the coast of Peru.

Very sad when the Nino ruins lives, but I'm still selfishly hoping for 1000 inches of snow at Mammoth mountain, 600 inches at Wolf Creek Pass in Colorado, etc. We all need a drink that bad. Figure a foot of snow makes an inch of water or less. We need a winter with 60" of rain in the high mountains.

We need that year that cars parked at the ski area get covered till next June, and the skiers cars park 20 feet above them on packed snow. Great skiing for the young too, I remember going to Crested Butte one el nino year, and they had gotten 100 inches of snow that week. Lately its been close to 100 inches for a year total.
 
http://www.surfline.com/surf-report/surfside-southern-california_4867/
This surfcam shows the berm they are building to try and protect the oceanfront homes of Surfside and Seal Beach from the storms predicted to strike the coast this winter due to El Nino. If you keep looping the footage by refreshing the cam, when it pans to the extreme right you can see Seal Beach Pier in the distance and to the right of that a wall of sand about 30 feet above sea level where the largest winter swells will be focused.

http://www.surfline.com/surf-report/seal-beach-southern-california_4217/
Here's the view from the pier cam from behind that massive wall of sand south of the Seal Beach pier, which is an attempt to protect the homes there from the expected winter surf. Back in 1982, one-third of that pier washed away in a storm. :shock:
A few images here:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...each+pier&qpvt=1982+seal+beach+pier&FORM=IGRE
 
"El Niño causes thousands of flowers to bloom in Chile’s Atacama Desert"
http://inhabitat.com/el-nino-induces-beautiful-blooming-in-atacama-desert/
In an average year, one would be hard pressed to find a more barren landscape than Chile's Atacama Desert. The world's driest non-polar desert, the usually barren Atacama is experiencing a dramatic transformation this year, thanks to El Niño. Beautiful pink mallow flowers and other plant species have emerged in the uncommonly moist soil, attracting lizards, insects, and birds to this temporary utopia.
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