John in CR said:
FWIW this is the only place on the internet that I discuss anything political, and that's because I feel safe here and trust my fellow ESers not to make efforts to deplatform or cancel me. I post my political views only to try to help those with contrary views.
Same here and 2 people have tried to deplatform me by bringing dishonest complaints to Justin for saying things they disagree with even when i am not being disrespectful, just firm in holding to my point. If one of these people was successful, then i would not only walk away from my position of responsibility, but never post here again. I also don't want this happening to anyone else.
John in CR said:
As long as what goes on in OTD doesn't affect the broader forum in any way, then I don't understand why any rules beyond self-policing are necessary. eg I was perfectly comfortable with just publicly pointing out leisesturm's death threat. That was over a month ago, he didn't repeat it, and I didn't take it seriously to begin with, so the self-policing approach seems to have worked just fine.
We don't have success with that approach so far. I wish we did. if we did, 95% of the moderation i do here would not be related to side effects of the OTD environment.
John in CR said:
I think maybe the issue is that Neptronix wants to be able to post in OTD's more interesting threads, but that leads to a conflict of interest or at least an appearance thereof.
I do but would be willing to give that up and talk about my views in another venue, but don't think it's fair i am held to a different standard than others and have less right to speak. I have walked away in disgust many times from the unproductive warlike environment since everyone is attacking and not listening. But that behavior is still a huge eyesore and toll on me since i have to moderate it. I can't get away from it by walking away.