Hillhater said:
What “proof” or even “vague evidence” can you cite that demonstrates anything we do to change our energy sources, will alter the future climate impact ?
What impact has the massive investment in RE, over the past 20 years, had on the increase in CO2 or sea level change ?
Or are you simply relying on your “faith” in Al Gore etc ?
What proof do you have that it didn't or it won't?
You can't have it both ways.
Even if you claim to be sitting on the fence, the pollution from burning fossil fuels is PLAINLY evident in any major metropolitan area. Even if you're dumb enough to believe the CO2 being released is nothing compared to all of the CO2 in the carbon cycle, the pollution is undeniable, even for you. So there's an obvious reason to consider a move (push) to electric vehicles.
It's not a quantum leap in logic to see that offsetting the use of fossil fuels in ICE's mean increasing electricity generation, which again primarily relies on fossil fuels. Which again, aren't exactly free from harmful emission other than CO2.
So even if you're dumb enough to believe burning fossil fuels is having no effect on the climate, they are finite and they are dirty.
Regardless of whether or not reducing CO2 emissions will have an effect on the climate, it's an inevitability we will have to do so. So the onus of proof really should be on you to show how these investments aren't doing anything and won't have any impact on the future.
I have to say for the most part I'm finding your arguments lack any critical thinking. Forget the science for a second. Let's just talk about the impact humans have had on the environment. Pretty much everything we've done in the last 200 years has had a negative effect on the environment. Farming, roads, cities, fishing, hunting, all of these human activities have had a negative impact on the environment.
Knowing this, you've somehow come to the conclusion that the activity of burning fossil fuels is having little or no impact on the environment? Doesn't that seem odd to you?
FFS, you're from Australia you should be aware of how the smallest things humans do have had ridiculous impacts on the environment. Some guy let go a couple furry little bunnies in your country and just about wiped out the whole ecosystem. I'd rather get caught smuggling a pound of crystal meth into Australia than get caught smuggling a puppy dog.
You do know this right? Like you're aware of how fragile the ecosystem and nature can be. Australia isn't alone, and foreign invaders aren't the only things we've done to upset this delicate balance. The drugs we take, even the soap we use has found its way into the water and has had crazy unintended consequences.
So how can you see all of that and not be just a little bit suspicious of what the consequences of digging up hydrocarbons and burning them, for 200 years, is having on the planet? Like I said, forget the science, just by using your brain a little you have to see that if we aren't doing anything to the environment with burning fossil fuels it's the craziest exception to the rule. It would be the 1% of the 99% of things humans do that don't have a negative impact on the planet.
Sorry, but you just don't make sense hill.