TOOLS FOR BIKE BUILDERS

[AussieJester]

After buffing is done and aluminum is looking super shiny, how should I protect it from the weather so it don't start looking like a old lawn chair? Mail box post will be outside till the end of time or till some drunk idiot drives into it.

You can't coat polished ali with a clear laquer, well you can, but not advisable 1) it don't stick good and 2) it dulls the finsh some...
i have heard good reports about Metla Gloss
But in my personal experience, aluminum requires constant up keep if you wish it to remain mirror finsih for a mail box pole,
i would go wih s chrome plated steel pole, would only cost 25-30 bucks to have chromed, less if you do the sanding and polishing
of the steel before dropping it at the metal platers, majority of the price for chrome plating is the time put into
preparing the surface has to be like the parts Valy showed before its plated... Polish a steel pipe
you will prolly be very surprised how it comes up, looks just like chrome.

Nice work as always Valy, that next frame looks like its going to b heavy duty judging by the tube size and that mofo wheel
sitting next to the mocked up frame..

KiM

 

[friedwires]

i use mothers chrome and aluminum pollish. clearcoat on pollished aluminum sucks,after time and the elements you end up with discoloration,peeling,and oxidation under it. i own a three year old victory ice bike that is stored in the garage and the clearcoat on the trees and lower legs already looks like hell. i'll be tearing it down for a strip and pollish.the more you rub aluminum, the prettier it gets.

 

[valy]

hello guys
thank you for help
all of you guys have right, aluminium pollish suck, the weather special rain distroy the shine in days
for a mail box pole it is beter steinless stell { my opinion to.} more stronger to impact and weather
but exist a option with a clear lack for the car wheels. I dont know the name or where you can douit
kim about next project will come a new topic soon after I will stop changing the plans every day the ideeas came with every pice I put on this project

 

[valy]

hello guys
I want to show you what I work now for my new frame

for this two I work 2 full days 20h and I need 8 pices

 

[valy]

hello guys
5h to sandbrush the pipe for the frame

very mutch work with this project

 

[rebelpilot]

Here are two good guides regarding aluminum polishing.
View attachment polish.pdfView attachment PolishingProcedures08PBooklet.pdf
This is a good protective coating for metal:
http://www.everbrite.net/

 

[katou]

Valy, that looks like a Drill Press?

Is it a Milling Machine?

I have not tried milling on my drill press, I guess the drill press is surviving okay? I was told that milling on my drill press would damage the bearings.

Very interested.

Katou.

 

[valy]

hello Katou mine it is a drilling milling mashine you can see pictures in first pages
you can use your drill machine if it is big enough[motor] and you have to have a special

 

[AussieJester]

I have not tried milling on my drill press, I guess the drill press is surviving okay? I was told that milling on my drill press would damage the bearings.

Katou.

micro mini and small mills all look to be exact same as a small drill press with the addition to the x-y axis table
I have looked at many small mills to buy and they are all the same, I guess they don't have the power to take big cuts
and thus stand up to the sideways forces...? Here is a local shop to me i have been to many times in the past
they have a nice range of mills

http://www.carbatec.com.au/milling-machines-tables_c2400

All resemble a drill press in the bearing department.

Valy.. One question, with a drill press there isn't a way of locking the spindle in place, how do you stop it from going
up when you start milling...? Does yours have some form of locking mechanism on it...?

KiM

 

[valy]

hello Kim yes mine milling machine have but you can build one
it is only one scruw in the one side to stop the axel to go up I
will put some picture later every machine can be update
kindly Valy

 

[RWP]

http://www.carbatec.com.au/milling-mach ... bles_c2400

For a bench top mill this is the Sieg milling machine to get:
http://www.carbatec.com.au/small-milling-machine_c2410
or in the US:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mill-Drill/G0463
View attachment X3G0463.JPGIt's called the X3, or SX3 in a slightly different configuration, and it's a "small mill" rather than the X2 "mini mill". I think the X2 is too small for bicycle work.
The X3 has a dovetailed column which is stiffer than round column machines. I think the X3 is unique for it's size.
More info:
A kind of funky review of the X3
http://www.mini-lathe.com/x3_mill/X3rvw/X3.htm
A fabulous set up guide for the X3
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/prepguides/X3 Mill Preparation Guide.pdf
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machines-Accessories/Milling-Machines/Model-X3-Small-Mill
and in the UK one can get a larger table for the SX3:
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machines-Accessories/Milling-Machines/Model-Super-X3-Mill

Sieg has been working with it's customers for years and these mills are accurate to a .001" and are well made.
I like mine very much!

 

[AussieJester]

Checkout the price differrence on that fist one, its over two grand in OZ and lil over 1k in USofA be cheaper to buy it pay the freight and get it from US than locally, ridiculous the price of some things here it really is...Nice mill either way but not for 2k IMHO...

KiM

 

[valy]

hello guys
I promis to Kim I will show some picture with my drilling miling machine with stop scruw

for my miling machine I paid 4000 sw kronor

 

[AussieJester]

Thanks Valy...I am up for a new bench press and i have been eyeing off one at Toolmart (local store here) for ~$365...shitload
better than the $98 piece of crap i use now, i was thinking i would also get a x-y axis table for it...work out mega cheaper than buying the largest milling machine Carbetec have here and
would do for the ghetto stuff i do in alumnium... Shall make sure the press has a stop like yours or similar...thanks again Valy...

KiM

 

[valy]

hi Kim
you can work even in metal but have to mill by milimeter at a time and to buy finger frass with 3 cuts
it is for industrial and cut perfect mutch better then
finger frass with 2 or 4 cuts
the finger frass with 2 cuts it is for debit
and with 4 cuts is for out side [exterior]milling
exempel if you have to do drops off axel chanel best it is to have 3 cant frass
and the speed it is very important exempel for metal you must to have low rotation to dont burn the finger frass
and VERY VERY important to have water cooling
if you dont use water cooling your cuter will die very fast and they are not cheap
NEVER use a normal drill for milling if you dont whant to have a pice of metal inside your face or aye
if you are interested I can put some picture for you to understund better my english suck
read the manual for milling machine before start to mill if you have any question I m here kindly Valy

 

[valy]

hello guys
today I have to build a special tool to cut my drops off
if you dont have a lathe [like me] you can use this if you have a a press drill

and you can use lathe cutters

you can use difrent ungle to cut one or 2 cutters

 

[valy]

hello guys

next days I will show you guys how this cutter works

 

[Hillhater]

I think what Valy is showing us is what we call a "Fly cutter"

similar to this ..http://www.taig.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17

 

[Gordo]

After buffing is done and aluminum is looking super shiny, how should I protect it from the weather so it don't start looking like a old lawn chair? Mail box post will be outside till the end of time or till some drunk idiot drives into it.

You can't coat polished ali with a clear laquer, well you can, but not advisable 1) it don't stick good and 2) it dulls the finsh some...
i have heard good reports about Metla Gloss
But in my personal experience, aluminum requires constant up keep if you wish it to remain mirror finsih for a mail box pole,
i would go wih s chrome plated steel pole, would only cost 25-30 bucks to have chromed, less if you do the sanding and polishing
of the steel before dropping it at the metal platers, majority of the price for chrome plating is the time put into
preparing the surface has to be like the parts Valy showed before its plated... Polish a steel pipe
you will prolly be very surprised how it comes up, looks just like chrome.

Nice work as always Valy, that next frame looks like its going to b heavy duty judging by the tube size and that mofo wheel
sitting next to the mocked up frame..

KiM

Kim;
A friend of mine did a set of al wheels for his daughters bugcar. I find the stuff is famous downunder;

http://www.nyalic.com.au/nyalic.com.au/Home.html

 

[katou]

If Valy says that cutter works, I do not doubt him, his results speak for themselves. I am quite surprised though.

The shaft attached to the tool holder is 3/8 (10mm) threaded rod? That means solid steel is only 5/16 (8-9mm) ?

I would have thought that was too small. I have a small fly cutter that I plan on using for aluminum with my drill press to cut bearing seats.

That one only swings about 1-1/2" or 37mm and it has a solid 1/2" or 12mm shaft. I haven't tried it yet, too busy screwing with reclaiming batteries.

Katou

 

[valy]

hello guys
I will show you how work my fly cutter

and here after milling and polish this is my drops off

it is more fast with LATHE but if you dont have I use what I have and it is work

 

[katou]

What are those spiky things? I wanted to know.

You are using them to join the pipes on your bike? Why?

I like how your fly cutter can do two cutters!

Excellent!

Katou

 

[valy]

hello guys
this spiky thinks they are air coller for turbo truks they are inside of turbo box
and I use them because they have a cool design and the frame will be difrent .
I try in my custom bikes to build somethink difrent then others.

 

[AussieJester]

Excellent work there Valy, lovin the detailed pics thankyou for taking the time out from work to take them... Look forward to next update coming along great thus far Valy

KiM

 

[valy]

hello guys
this is my new drill press

I use for polish pipes good one :wink: