JackFlorey
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Cause we send a HECK of a lot more carbon into the air (per person) than they do.markz said:Meanwhile all the 3rd world ****holes are polluting, China's polluting and dumping yet we got to pay a carbon tax.
Cause we send a HECK of a lot more carbon into the air (per person) than they do.markz said:Meanwhile all the 3rd world ****holes are polluting, China's polluting and dumping yet we got to pay a carbon tax.
JackFlorey said:Cause we send a HECK of a lot more carbon into the air (per person) than they do.markz said:Meanwhile all the 3rd world ****holes are polluting, China's polluting and dumping yet we got to pay a carbon tax.
Yangtze River in China has been found to be the most polluting river in the world, dumping some 333,000 tonnes of plastic each year into the East China Sea, according to researchers at the Ocean Cleanup Project.
It was found that the the Ganges River in India ‘is the world’s second-most polluting river’, dumping 115,000 tonnes of plastic in Bay of Bengal.
Top 20 Most Polluting River In The World, 2017
Yangtze
Location: China
Ganges
Location: India and Bangladesh
Xi
Location: China
Huangpu
Location: China
Cross
Location: Nigeria and Cameroon
Brantas
Location: Indonesia
Amazon
Location: Brazil, Peru, Columbia, and Ecuador
Pasig
Location: Philippines
Irrawaddy
Location: Myanmar
Solo
Location: Indonesia
Mekong
Location: Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, China, Myanmar, and Vietnam
Imo
Location: Nigeria
Dong
Location: China
Serayu
Location: Indonesia
Magdalena
Location: Colombia
Tamsui
Location: Taiwan
Zhujiang
Location: China
Hanjiang
Location: China
Progo
Location: Indonesia
Kwa Ibo
Location: Nigeria
Lake Karachay (sometimes spelled Karachai or Karachaj), is a small lake in central Russia. It is often referred to as the most polluted site on earth.
Lake Tai is located on the Yangtze Delta near Shanghai in China. It is the third-largest freshwater lake in China, and has been plagued by pollution in recent times due to the rapid growth of surrounding regions. While details surrounding the pollution in the lake are sparse, there are thousands of factories on its shores, which quite possibly all discharge industrial waste into its waters.
Dauntless said:And here China is number one, in 2017 they were at 30% of the world's and growing. If China was gone, it would get so much easier. If you only measured the small percentage of the population actually benefiting from their industrialization, I bet per person would blow everyone else out of the water.
Chinese citizens pays 3% to 45% in personal income taxes. What do you pay?markz said:We pay through the nose in taxes, cleanup and "they" get to slide and pay nothing while still dumping and still polluting.
Anyone who cares more about his own wallet than the future of humanity will agree with you.TheBeastie said:When it comes to China vs USA emissions, I think it was a good idea Trump withdrew from the Paris Accords.
You'd have to ask Markz. He brought it up: "We pay through the nose in taxes, cleanup and "they" get to slide and pay nothing"Hillhater said:Oh, and Jack... what has personal income tax got to do with any carbon tax scheme ??
markz said:China can pollute away with immunity and the government allows it, meanwhile we are paying a high price which includes carbon TAXES
JackFlorey said:Nope. You've been reading too much right wing propaganda. The US does not have a carbon tax. A few states have a cap-and-trade policy which means that you can pollute to your heart's content - up to a limit (the cap.) If you want to pollute more you can buy 'credits' from another company who has extra (the 'trade.') No tax. No money to the government. All the money stays within the companies.markz said:China can pollute away with immunity and the government allows it, meanwhile we are paying a high price which includes carbon TAXES,
Ah, that explains it! Good catch.Addy said:markz is from Canada where there are carbon taxes.
Saudi Arabia, Australia, Canada, USA are the 4 highest CO2 per capita at over 15 tonnes/ person. China is 8. And most of that is exported to other rich countries embodied in goods and raw materials. All rich countries must degrow their economies and quit buying, building, and consuming so much stuff if we want China and others to quit burning coal.markz said:meanwhile China doesnt have to do anything but build more coal capacity.
markz said:China can pollute away with immunity and the government allows it, meanwhile we are paying a high price which includes carbon taxes ..."
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here in Alberta:
first move after election of Jason Kenny in Alberta , he removed Carbon Tax
as far as I know he ended carbon tax in Alberta less than year ago..
Yep. I remember hearing about how the Clean Air laws in the US would absolutely bankrupt all the car companies because catalytic converters were insanely expensive. They have PLATINUM in them! And about how CAFE would lead to everyone in the US driving sub sub compact cars and that's it. Pintos or smaller!markz said:On the business side of an industry in Canada, to have cleaner emissions is very costly to follow legislation.
TheBeastie said:When it comes to China vs USA emissions, I think it was a good idea Trump withdrew from the Paris Accords.
USA folks haven't really seen the invisible damage that happens when you jump full step into this green energy tax crap,
markz said:On the business side of an industry in Canada, to have cleaner emissions is very costly to follow legislation. Environmental legislation is very strict...
sendler2112 said:That was good right up to the point of saying: " in Germany, electricity price is 50% less than Poland". Germany and Denmark have the highest priced electricity in the world at $0.38/ kWh...
Cephalotus said:Retail prices for households are VERY different from wholesale electricity prices and have not much to do with the cost of electriicty generation.
Very true..Cephalotus said:Retail prices for households are VERY different from wholesale electricity prices and have not much to do with the cost of electriicty generation.
sendler2112 said:Germany has had the highest ongoing national subsidies for new electricity projects which allows the new producers to bid down the wholesale price.
And then the consumer pays the country back with the corresponding fees at the retail end bringing the actual cost up to among the highest in the world.